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Windows 10 refugees flock to Linux in what devs call their "biggest launch"

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Re: Windows 10 refugees flock to Linux in what devs call their "biggest launch"

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Post by osigurdson »

BSDobelix wrote: post #104
osigurdson wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The question is, how much guilt-free landfill waste should each person get to create in their lifetime? Don't say zero.

The problem isn't landfills; it's the toxic substances being spread all over our planet, as seen in the video. Just stop telling people that e-waste is being recycled—it's mostly a lie. But i can answer you the "guilt-free" part it's really easy: Don't buy stuff you don't need, or stuff that's just for short-time-fun (Labubu vs. Guitar) ;)

What if you want a Labubu (whatever that is) more than I want a guitar? Clearly we strictly need neither of these things. It would be better to use a more objective measure like mass.

Re: Windows 10 refugees flock to Linux in what devs call their "biggest launch"

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Post by CaptainOfCoit »

osigurdson wrote: post #108
CaptainOfCoit wrote: post #107

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Well, I guess docker is as good of an example as anything. Using it on Linux is a much smoother experience than Windows+VM/WSL2 could ever be.

Oh ok. If you use podman instead there isn't as much friction. Just type "podman" instead of "docker" as the commands are the same. winget install -e --id RedHat.Podman podman run --it --rm -p 8000:8000 .. image For gitbash, add a new profile in Windows Terminal and find "bash.exe" in Program Files\Git (sorry I can't remember the details and not on Windows right now). Once you have this you can use normal Linux comma…

> winget install -e --id RedHat.Podman && podman run --it --rm -p 8000:8000 .. image

Where exactly does this run? Podman/Docker makes no difference, doesn't it? You still need to run a VM (WSL2 on Windows), so might as well run those directly in the WSL2 environment I already have? But again, docker in WSL2 doesn't work as directly on Linux, for whatever reason.

> For gitbash, add a new profile in Windows Terminal and find "bash.exe" in Program Files\Git (sorry I can't remember the details and not on Windows right now). Once you have this you can use normal Linux commands, setup a .bashrc, ls, cd ~, vi, etc.

Been there and tried that, and "git bash" on Windows is probably the worst mixmatch, and bunch of tooling gets confused when the shell is bash but the actual host is Windows.

Re: Windows 10 refugees flock to Linux in what devs call their "biggest launch"

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Post by spacechild1 »

newdee wrote: post #83
spacechild1 wrote: post #58

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> to the point where they have to learn how to navigate a file system in their introductory university courses. What happened to IT lessons at school? I had IT starting at the age of 13 onwards, and that was in the early 2000s. By the time you graduated from school, you were guaranteed to have at least basic IT skills.

My IT lessons in the 90s were “here’s how to use spreadsheets and Microsoft office”. It wasn’t until later that I was taught programming and other more foundational concepts that would take me beyond being an office worker that knew how to format and print a letter. Fortunately, I had computers at home and my parents encouraged me to learn how they worked.

> My IT lessons in the 90s were “here’s how to use spreadsheets and Microsoft office”.

Same for me. But these are actually useful skills and I find it strange that they wouldn't be taught anymore.

Re: Windows 10 refugees flock to Linux in what devs call their "biggest launch"

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Post by spacechild1 »

CaptainOfCoit wrote: post #65
spacechild1 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> to the point where they have to learn how to navigate a file system in their introductory university courses. What happened to IT lessons at school? I had IT starting at the age of 13 onwards, and that was in the early 2000s. By the time you graduated from school, you were guaranteed to have at least basic IT skills.

I think those classes/lessons were added when the availability of computers were kind of so and so, not every kid had a computer at home but most adults at the time understood that computers will be used in the kids future one way or another, so they figured everyone should know it. At one point it shifted to "everyone has a computer at home" to "everyone has a computer in their pocket, and learns typing by themselve…

> when the availability of computers were kind of so and so,

I think in the early/mid 2000s most families already had a PC at home. At least all of my friends did.

> "everyone has a computer in their pocket, and learns typing by themselves"

Yeah, that seems to be the sentiment. Of course we all know this is completely wrong.

Re: Windows 10 refugees flock to Linux in what devs call their "biggest launch"

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Post by osigurdson »

CaptainOfCoit wrote: post #112
osigurdson wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh ok. If you use podman instead there isn't as much friction. Just type "podman" instead of "docker" as the commands are the same. winget install -e --id RedHat.Podman podman run --it --rm -p 8000:8000 .. image For gitbash, add a new profile in Windows Terminal and find "bash.exe" in Program Files\Git (sorry I can't remember the details and not on Windows right now). Once you have this you can use normal Linux comma…

> winget install -e --id RedHat.Podman && podman run --it --rm -p 8000:8000 .. image Where exactly does this run? Podman/Docker makes no difference, doesn't it? You still need to run a VM (WSL2 on Windows), so might as well run those directly in the WSL2 environment I already have? But again, docker in WSL2 doesn't work as directly on Linux, for whatever reason. > For gitbash, add a new profile in Windows Terminal an…

It sounds like you are happy with your current setup. Enjoy!

Re: Windows 10 refugees flock to Linux in what devs call their "biggest launch"

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Post by d3Xt3r »

int_19h wrote: post #100
d3Xt3r wrote: post #93

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Not when it comes to Wayland support.

GNOME is one of the most aggressive pushers of Wayland if anything.

That doesn't mean they're ahead of KDE. Check out the KDE blog announcements, they've always been ahead if GNOME (at least in the last couple of years) in implementing various Wayland features (like having proper HDR support).

Re: Windows 10 refugees flock to Linux in what devs call their "biggest launch"

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Post by BSDobelix »

osigurdson wrote: post #111
BSDobelix wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem isn't landfills; it's the toxic substances being spread all over our planet, as seen in the video. Just stop telling people that e-waste is being recycled—it's mostly a lie. But i can answer you the "guilt-free" part it's really easy: Don't buy stuff you don't need, or stuff that's just for short-time-fun (Labubu vs. Guitar) ;)

What if you want a Labubu (whatever that is) more than I want a guitar? Clearly we strictly need neither of these things. It would be better to use a more objective measure like mass.

>objective measure like mass

Because 1kg of Plutonium is the same as 1kg of Wood?

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