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Titan submersible’s $62 SanDisk memory card found undamaged at wreckage site

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Re: Titan submersible’s $62 SanDisk memory card found undamaged at wreckage site

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If a hardened camera can survive, I'm surprised subs don't have a floating black box that can survive an implosion and then float to the surface and begin emitting a radio signal.

I guess the trick would be finding a way to securely attach the black box in a way that would ensure its release in a catastrophic disaster.

Re: Titan submersible’s $62 SanDisk memory card found undamaged at wreckage site

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll admit I only watched a video on it not the report, but it had pictures reportedly redacted at manufacturer request. It showed a teensy 3 and some adafruit qwiic board in there. Obviously the real engineering is in the enclosure. Otherwise it could just be a webcam. But still, it's clearly not a very in depth electrical design. I'm all for SoMs if you can but they don't guarantee you the adventure of custom hardw…

No serious commercial product should be using a Teensy under basically any circumstance.

Can I ask why? I'm not really into microprocessors.

Re: Titan submersible’s $62 SanDisk memory card found undamaged at wreckage site

#113

If a hardened camera can survive, I'm surprised subs don't have a floating black box that can survive an implosion and then float to the surface and begin emitting a radio signal. I guess the trick would be finding a way to securely attach the black box in a way that would ensure its release in a catastrophic disaster.

I guess he wasn’t planning for a catastrophic failure ?

Re: Titan submersible’s $62 SanDisk memory card found undamaged at wreckage site

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post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, conformal coating and potting are extremely different things done for different reasons.

I'm not talking about which methods are being used, I'm talking about which methods could be used. Further, potting, where you let the epoxy drip off, gives you a conformal coating.

Conformal coating is much less viscous and would leave a layer orders of magnitude thinner then letting potting epoxy drip off. It's not at all comparable.

Re: Titan submersible’s $62 SanDisk memory card found undamaged at wreckage site

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Why isn't a cellphone filled with epoxy?

How would you do screen replacement? That is a common repair since people drop their phones and currently you can get your phone repaired by some teenager in a booth at the mall. If you fill the phone with epoxy, how are you detaching the screen, and getting a new ribbon cable through the epoxy?

So what if you can't replace a screen on an epoxy-filled cell phone? That's a small price to pay for knowing that your camera will survive if you take a one-way trip to crush-depth.

Re: Titan submersible’s $62 SanDisk memory card found undamaged at wreckage site

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The NTSB's original report has more detail on how the SD Card was encrypted and how the NTSB managed to decrypt it: https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket/Document/docBLOB?ID=18741602&Fi...

Does not leave SubC in a particularly flattering light...

It survived the pressure, does the rest matter?

Re: Titan submersible’s $62 SanDisk memory card found undamaged at wreckage site

#117

If a hardened camera can survive, I'm surprised subs don't have a floating black box that can survive an implosion and then float to the surface and begin emitting a radio signal. I guess the trick would be finding a way to securely attach the black box in a way that would ensure its release in a catastrophic disaster.

Probably commerical subs aren't a common thing with lots of regulation.

Just guessing here? :)

Re: Titan submersible’s $62 SanDisk memory card found undamaged at wreckage site

#118

If a hardened camera can survive, I'm surprised subs don't have a floating black box that can survive an implosion and then float to the surface and begin emitting a radio signal. I guess the trick would be finding a way to securely attach the black box in a way that would ensure its release in a catastrophic disaster.

I guess he wasn’t planning for a catastrophic failure ?

He ridiculed anyone who told him he should, taking it as evidence that he was disrupting an industry.

There is something slightly romantic about dying in such a way that his body turned to mist and floated away in the current. A bit like having your ashes spread at sea. With fewer steps.

Re: Titan submersible’s $62 SanDisk memory card found undamaged at wreckage site

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Figure 3 from the report- that's an Adafruit sensor module on a 3d printed bit of plastic with a teensy-brand microcontroller just sitting in there! Actually, the entire electronics enclosure appears printed. Very funny to see in what I assume is a million-dollar product.

What was the water condensation situation like in this submarine? Semi bare electronics sounds very very bad.

Re: Titan submersible’s $62 SanDisk memory card found undamaged at wreckage site

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post #8

It continues to amaze me how indestructible SDCards are.

It's a solid piece of silicon encased in epoxy, so there's nothing really to get crushed. Contrast this to something like a cellphone that's made of hundreds of separate parts and has void space that will get crushed.

Say for argument’s sake there was a small air bubble in the resin. Couldn’t that result in cavitation?
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