I hope Orion (from Kagi) gains more traction and follows through w/ open-sourcing everything. Privacy-first, 0-telemetry, performant, capable... just not OSS (yet).
Any info about planned open sourcing? I have not heard about it.
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Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features
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#112An AI sidebar doesn't bother me. But it should be an extension, not an inescapable part of the browser.
It should if you try to fly off the radar. Not that Tor browser isn't a fucken emmentaler.
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#113It seems like AI is the new way to lose individual control on operating systems and fundamental apps.
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#114Just an FYI for anyone who is interested, I’ve also been doing the same for Waterfox. Mozilla have taken into consideration doing things locally, such as tab organisation and the likes (one would assume pre-GPT era and with regard to features not utilising LLMs this would’ve been branded as ML functionality) but I’m not fully convinced this still won’t open up potential security issues in the future[for users of AI b…
Thank you! Downloading Waterfox now and spreading the word! This AI jamming its way into everything needs to end.
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#115Since we're all here to complain about Firefox, I want to add that at this point I'm a firefox user out of principle, but I swear I get so many weird performance issues with firefox on ubuntu that it feels like self-flagellation in service of the gods of the free and open Internet. Unfortunately they're the kinds of problems that are really hard to submit tickets for: gradual degradation of performance over the cours…
I've been a Firefox user since it launched (and a Netscape Navigator user before that). In addition to Desktop, I use Firefox on iOS with my 3-year old iPad Pro, which of late exhibits the same sluggishness that you describe after a while. It goes away if I force restart, but not if I just close tabs.
I speculate that it has to do with keeping alive closed pages. Something related that I first started noticing a few months ago is that if I mistime the closing of a YouTube tab, the sound will keep playing and the only way to stop it is to force quit the app.
I haven't noticed the issue on Firefox Desktop, but my MacBook Pro is reasonably beefy and maybe that helps.
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#116Mozilla's beginning to lose its way.
There are far too many "luminaries" in the tech industry who've had the last 20 years of "must create value!" go to their heads, even in the FLOSS space.
When profit motive does not exist (and it shouldn't in FLOSS) then you need to stick to things like the UNIX philosophy and KISS (keep it simple, stupid) in order to create good software. Trends mean nothing when you're in this mindset.
It's Firefox. It's a browser. It does browser things; namely, it sends HTTP requests, possibly executes JavaScript, and renders the resulting computed data on a screen as HTML. It does not need to have AI integrated. At best, AI should be a downloadable extension.
If the group's leadership cannot comprehend this, then they need to be removed immediately and blacklisted from leadership at future organizations in the future.
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd love to be able to open up an arbitrary web page in this sidebar. It would be super valuable for research. They can obviously do it, since the AI sidebar also loads a web page, but the functionality is locked for some reason, and vertical splitting extensions are pure jank. I really wish Mozilla would focus on addressing some of the numerous user feature requests, rather than whatever the current trend is.
> I'd love to be able to open up an arbitrary web page in this sidebar. Vivaldi has that. (When Opera got bought out by some Chinese company, one of the original founders created Vivaldi. It's Chromium-based, so Chrome extensions work, and Chrome extensions not using Manifest V3 might end up not working soon).
If you want to stick with Firefox, then I'd recommend Zen[0]. It has the tiling feature much like Vivaldi, among many other enhancements on Firefox.
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#118An AI sidebar doesn't bother me. But it should be an extension, not an inescapable part of the browser.
I'd love to be able to open up an arbitrary web page in this sidebar. It would be super valuable for research. They can obviously do it, since the AI sidebar also loads a web page, but the functionality is locked for some reason, and vertical splitting extensions are pure jank. I really wish Mozilla would focus on addressing some of the numerous user feature requests, rather than whatever the current trend is.
You can put two windows on screen at the same time, you know.
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#119Why is Firefox adding AI features?
Pointy haired bosses heard about AI, and now you have AI everywhere.. you know, just in case, if you wanted an AI chatbot in your image resizing software or your pdf reader. Before that it was "cloud", where every app had to have a cloud-something, even if it didnd't need one.
In theory, there shouldn't be pointy-haired bosses doing anything with Firefox. That's the entire point. Cathedral vs. bazaar and whatnot.
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#120Good! I do not want nor need AI in every single aspect of my life. I mean, I've seen AI hygiene products out there. How does that even work? Don't answer that ... I know it's a marketing scheme, akin to the "HD" craze of five to 10 years ago.
The HD craze was more like 20 years ago, you're getting old :)
Before that was the prefixing everything with a lower-case i craze.