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like serfs being susceptible to doom scrolling
Or progression fantasy fiction. Mmmmmmmmmm! Sweet sweet progress!!!
You're courting death.
Addictive-like behavioural traits in pet dogs with extreme motivation for toys
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#112Perhaps not surprising, working breeds – many of which are known to have been artificially selected for high toy or predatory motivation – were overrepresented in the sample. This is the vibe I get from my golden retriever. Chasing the tennis ball is more than play, it's a justification for life, her contribution to the pack. Actually eating food has a higher priority than chasing the ball, but not much else does. Wh…
I don't think I want another dog again after our Akita died. She was such a good pup. Big dog which does well living in smaller areas. Is defensive of family, but isn't necessarily over aggressive with human strangers. She was so quiet. The only time she barked you knew it was time to pay attention. I haven't owned many dogs so I don't know the degree to which personality is determined by individual or breed. But everything about our Kira was what I loved in dogs. And everything I loved about her is what stops me from getting another one. I just don't think they could live up to her example. And I cannot abide a noisy dog.
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What if you never trained them to pull, and they never observed that behavior? Would they still want to do it?
We got a purebred Aussie sheepdog (kelpie) that failed its tests at a year old. They were going to shoot her, so she became our family pet. She was obsessed with rounding things up - cats, ducks, kids, you name it. Part of her dna for sure.
If she was tested (for shepherding?) it sounds like she was probably trained...
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#114I'm struggling to understand what the result really is: it seems that some dogs at some point would rather play with a toy than eat or come play with their owner. That seems pretty normal. Is this really "addictive-like"? Why isn't it "really enjoy"?
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#115We have a springer, cocker and a sprocker. We knew that addiction to these things were a problem and so we didn’t allow it to develop. I do think that people who are constantly throwing balls, especially with a wanger, are idiots.
Why do you keep getting them then?
I think a springer just needs lots of exercise not necessary a ball?
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#116> play has remained somewhat of a mystery, being associated with no immediate adaptive function
because it releases dopamine and is not related to whether the animal or someone will crack or be cracked with viable offspring
evolution via natural selection doesn’t require every trait to have a meaning or purpose, why do intellectuals get it backwards with retroactive explanation
if the trait persists or is present after sexual maturity, then it doesn’t get weeded out by sex and has no purpose or adaptive explanation whatsoever
in this case, play releases dopamine. dopamine production is a guiding force for being with dopamine.
mammals get addicted. rats and humans react the same to the same reward experiments. dogs exhibit the same traits while being exempt from the experiments
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Also, Humans were domesticated by sort of not letting them grow up. Maybe that’s the reason we get along so well.
Adulting is a word for this reason!
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#118>Behavioural addictions, characterised by compulsive engagement in rewarding activities despite adverse consequences in the long term, are more heterogeneous and less well-understood than substance addictions Indeed. Mostly because every study on "behavioral addictions" is published in third tier journals or is a negative result in real journals. It's something that doesn't actually exist in mammals and it's current…
Well, my fellow CBT practitioners would disagree. There are things you don't do but you understand not doing them is hurting you, so you decide to follow CBT (for example - there are other ways, but CBT has decent efficiency although it's expensive). They don't really need to be classified disorders or fobias. Similarly, there are things you do and you realize not doing them would be beneficial to you. So you try to…
Rational choice theory has problems explaining "weak will", why we do things we don't want, or don't do things we want.
What's self-evident to you (and me) to some people gets in the way of a neat description of society.
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So why do you think people continue to gamble, even after it has ruined their and their families lives and finances? Slot machine addicts will literally void their bladder rather than stop playing for 5 minutes to use the restroom.
Because people make poor choices and it's usually their own fault. We used have words like "vice" and "sin" to describe these poor choices, but thanks to post-60s radical individualism, the only vocabulary for describing maladaptive behavior that remains of the language of medicine. Therefore, everything bad someone does is a "disease" for which he needs "therapy" or "treatment". We've utterly lost the capacity for d…
Psychology and medicine have a bad habit of describing something, giving it a name, and then pretend it's also an explanation of the something. "Addiction" is one such thing. It's both a description of behavior and a (circular, deficient) explanation of behavior.
But then again, so is "vice" and "sin". You're not helping.
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Dogs were domesticated by sort of not letting them grow up. We selected for the ones that retained puppy features into adulthood. They don't loose big eyes, hanging ears, retained playful/less aggressive behavior that is better for living with siblings. Perhaps the obsession with fetching came with that?
Also, Humans were domesticated by sort of not letting them grow up. Maybe that’s the reason we get along so well.
Yeah, it's a well know theory, Rutger Bregman in "Humankind: A Hopeful History" goes into it. We cultivated ourselves. Stopping ourselves from becoming full blown individualistic apes. (Incoming jokes on how it didn't work for some on the opposite political spectrum...)