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No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by badsectoracula »

bee_rider wrote: post #106
badsectoracula wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

About AutoHotKey, you can do similar stuff as long as you are using X11 as there are various utilities for it, such as xdotool[0]. There is even an AutoHotKey-for-Linux project[1] (it also needs X11 - the author did try to port it to Wayland but gave up). For Wayland there are some alternatives like ydotool[2] (actually AFAIK since ydotool uses some daemon to inject events it works with anything, not just Wayland, bu…

I suspect the problem they were indicating with “AutoHotKey scripts, lots of them” is that they just have a lot of scripts they’d need to convert. I get it—even switching to a new WM or distro can be a real pain.

Well, they did mention "AHK or equivalent" so it sounds like converting them isn't out of the question.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by ryandrake »

This is the worst part of modern computing: Companies trying to get you to do things (or trick you into doing them, or worst: forcing you to do them as a condition of using the product). What ever happened to the user being in charge and deciding what to do with his computer? These dark patterns are getting so tiring. Companies need to butt out and offer features, not coerce people into using them.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by numpad0 »

izacus wrote: post #18

Can someone answer why is this ok on iOS and macOS but not Windows? They all provide backup via their own paid clouds and ask for an opt-in.

Frankly it's more of a fact than an occasionally seen odd double standard behavior at this point. It's literally not okay when Microsoft does it; iPhone users literally love this exact same feature. They should be working a lot harder on solving this mystery.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by itopaloglu83 »

creato wrote: post #16
hedora wrote: post #4

This stuff is increasingly normalized across platforms. I'd say "vote with your wallet", but when all the tech platforms are doing it, there's not much choice. PCs / laptops are probably the last hold out: Just switch to Linux (but be careful which distro you pick) or MacOS (for now). The political pendulum is going to swing far left in the US given the disasters that are playing out in DC. Hopefully this sort of cra…

MacOS is just as aggressive about turning on icloud as windows is with it's crap.

I’m sorry but you’re mistaken. It’s literally a normal skip button when first setting up the machine.

https://youtu.be/rE-hFyANr0Y

And unlike Windows it doesn’t turn itself on randomly or install additional apps like OneDrive, Teams, and Skype etc. with every OS update.

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Post by nomilk »

kstrauser wrote: post #101
chasing0entropy wrote: post #90

It baffles me how many people on HN cannot operate with a simple deny-all firewall. The windows version and updates I install are the only updates installed. The files I back up are the only files that back up. Nothing can connect to the internet. Not Windows Update, Not google chrome update, Not onedrive, Nor any virus or malware program. Reliance on the internet is the problem. No windows version including windows…

Eh, lots of us use Little Snitch or the equivalent. But I confess that seems like victim blaming to me. Users shouldn’t be expected to watch their freaking OS vendor like a hawk. That’s the one vendor you kind of have to trust: if they’re lying to you about what they’re doing, all bets are off. This to me sounds like “I check my tire pressure every 8 miles because I don’t want them to explode catastrophically like th…

> seems like victim blaming to me

I admit to being in the category OP speaks of; i.e. would love control over what programs can access over the internet, but haven't the slightest clue how to set it up and manage it day to day.

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Post by jofla_net »

malfist wrote: post #17
hedora wrote: post #4

This stuff is increasingly normalized across platforms. I'd say "vote with your wallet", but when all the tech platforms are doing it, there's not much choice. PCs / laptops are probably the last hold out: Just switch to Linux (but be careful which distro you pick) or MacOS (for now). The political pendulum is going to swing far left in the US given the disasters that are playing out in DC. Hopefully this sort of cra…

It's almost like monopolies aren't good for the consumer. We need some real power for enforcing the Sherman act. Too many companies have been able to buy all their competitors

Yeah but that sweet sweet ABI, we just gotta have that stable ABI, bum ba dum.

Remember that ABI when you're pulling out your hair over whatever MS's latest snafu is. The PC isn't about personal computing, no ,no, its about desperation. Its about using the fulcrum of ABI stability to see how much someone can accept wedged down their throat, because yeah, well, don't wanna loose that ABI.

Remember that ABI, 'next time 'Error: Something Happened.'

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Post by jacquesm »

proactivesvcs wrote: post #74

Last time I tried to restore a file from a customer's onedrive it just failed with a variety of 500 errors or just blank pages. The reason I was trying to restore it was because windows had moved all of their files into onedrive without their informed consent and (at least) this one was no longer accessible. onedrive is not a backup: like all automatic sync systems it is a liability. It may be useful but it is still…

And more importantly: it's not yours.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by lisper »

It's the same with Apple OS updates. I hardly ever want to update my Apple devices. The odds that such an update will actually improve my UX are indistinguishable from zero nowadays, and the odds that it will break something that I rely on are very nearly 1. (And yes, I get that I'm not getting security updates. That's a risk that I'm wiling to take in order to have an otherwise stable system.) And yet, I cannot get my Apple devices to stop nagging me.

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Post by tsycho »

badsectoracula wrote: post #12

May i suggest some solutions? :-P -> https://endof10.org/ (it has a map with people who can help install Linux) -> https://www.opensuse.org/ (what i'm using on my PCs, works fine for the most part[0]) -> https://www.linuxmint.com/ (people seem to like this) -> https://bazzite.gg/ (seems to be popular with gamers) -> https://www.debian.org/ (almost everything is based on this :-P) [0] for the most part because nothing…

The only reason I use Windows is for playing some old games (primarily Age of Empires II: DE) that only work well on Windows. In the AoE2 case, I also need CaptureAge that only works on Windows.

The point is that even though I have 95% de-Microsoftized my life for the past 2 decades, I still need to run Windows for a few specific flows, and I run into the same issues as the article author here.

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