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Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

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Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

#111
Due to Tennessee law, he has to come up with $210,000 himself to get bail from a bondsmen. And he loses $10,000 of that permanently. TN law is designed to keep non-rich folks in jail. He likely won't get his trial for months in TN. Also by design.

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

#112

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And that's why there should be serious consequences for everyone involved in this prosecution and prosecutions like it. If the case is as described here, there should be jail time involved for kidnapping and false imprisonment. But any justice system always protects their own.

> why there should be serious consequences for everyone involved Do we have names of the arresting officers, prosecutors and judge this is in front of? With that we can determine who above them is elected.

> "numerous…teachers, parents and students" somehow interpreted Bushart's meme—with its citation in fine print about a previous school shooting at Perry High School in Perry, Iowa—as a threat to carry out a similar shooting at nearby Perry County High School.

Wouldn’t matter. Those elected would likely be re elected. This wasn’t Trump advising some federal agency to bully someone he doesn’t like. It was the community organizing. This is the will of the people.

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

#113
post #19

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uh, bc /r/politics is all about politics and this post is all about politics. Edit - I'm fine with the article, it's abhorrent and relevant. My tongue in cheek comment was about the comments. These comments give me the same feeling of Reddit - angry people arguing over whether someones death was justified or not.

Man getting jailed and having bail set at $2 million for a Facebook post isn’t “politics”.

Yes it is, by definition.

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

#114

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> while the percentage of households with guns has gone down, significantly The civilian gun stock has grown significantly since the 60s [1]. These data, together, seem to imply a large (but declining) number of households with a couple of guns and a few households with a ridiculous number of guns. Of course, the dagger in your argument is that American divorce rates are not extraordinary [2]. Our gun ownership and s…

> Of course, the dagger in your argument is… Reading comprehension moment: the parent comment was carefully not claiming either side of the argument. Your response, and the downvotes, are as if they declared for the locally unpopular side. They did not.

Not sure I agree, based on (more subtle?) reading comprehension.

> The conservative view simply is that this correlation is causal, while the liberal view is that the causation runs in the opposite direction of the correlation.

You're right that the poster doesn't make it clear (deliberately or not) but the use of the word "simply" feels sympathetic, and suggesting that the "liberal view" is that correlation and causation are opposed (when that would typically be counter-intuitive) sounds critical. At least, that was my comprehension of the post, as someone without any skin in the game.

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

#115

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> while the percentage of households with guns has gone down, significantly The civilian gun stock has grown significantly since the 60s [1]. These data, together, seem to imply a large (but declining) number of households with a couple of guns and a few households with a ridiculous number of guns. Of course, the dagger in your argument is that American divorce rates are not extraordinary [2]. Our gun ownership and s…

> Of course, the dagger in your argument is… Reading comprehension moment: the parent comment was carefully not claiming either side of the argument. Your response, and the downvotes, are as if they declared for the locally unpopular side. They did not.

Suggesting both points of view as reasonable is an indication of what they really think.

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

#116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And that's why there should be serious consequences for everyone involved in this prosecution and prosecutions like it. If the case is as described here, there should be jail time involved for kidnapping and false imprisonment. But any justice system always protects their own.

> why there should be serious consequences for everyone involved Do we have names of the arresting officers, prosecutors and judge this is in front of? With that we can determine who above them is elected.

I think you have a lot of faith in democratic processes at this point, despite widespread evidence such as this very article that they are being clearly undermined.

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

#117
post #53
post #38

I wish the article would show a screenshot of what was posted, however 'uncivil'. Found this on a linked facebook post - no clue if it's accurate. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=25571453995778528&se...

If this is accurate, this whole thing is beyond hysterical. Irrespective of political beliefs, this is an insane thing to have happen in the U.S. (this example is innocuous speech protected under the 1st amendment). Spooky shit as it sets precedence for anyone to go after anyone for a social media post on any grounds. That's psychotic.

> Irrespective of political beliefs,

I wish people would stop pretending that this has nothing to do with politics. Belief that the rules should punish anyone you don't like and protect those you do is incredibly popular, and the dominant ideology of this administration and its supporters. It is a political belief, and nobody is seriously combatting it. Still we act as though there are two sides with a shared goal of creating a better world, and differing ideas of how to accomplish that. It's been pretty clearly demonstrated that the goal of this incarnation of the Republican party is an authoritarian police state dedicated to punishing and eradicating whomever they deem an "enemy within". And a lot of voters are ok with this, so long as it doesn't apply to them personally, so long as they're a favored party.

The apparent hypocrisy is naked and insulting. They'll cry "cancel culture" and censorship over companies deciding not to platform bigots while cheering when the police kidnap protestors or outspoken political opponents. I say "apparent" because this all makes perfect sense when you realize that they never cared about free speech or anything else they claimed to. It was always about "good guys" getting to do whatever they want, and "bad guys" getting hurt. The friend-enemy distinction. No policy goals, no principled stance on issues, just a convenient facade.

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

#118
post #63

The comments on this article are horrifying. It's clear people have lost their damn minds.

A common theme in these comments is justifying retribution against the left as if everyone in the country is for or against one team or the other- when in reality many of us are in the middle and think injustice remains evil no matter who does it.

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Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

#119
post #39
post #36

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Don't make the mistake of thinking comments on a random article are indicative of the way the population actually thinks. They may not even be real.

Oh, they are real, they aren't just bots, and they've all been emboldened. Go on these people's facebooks, or invite them to Thanksgiving, you'll see the same firehose of shit.

> Go on these people's facebooks, or invite them to Thanksgiving, you'll see the same firehose of shit.

A fun game is to look at Facebook profiles selected from random comment sections.

By doing this, I have come away with even less understanding of people’s believes, motivations, etc.

Re: Tennessee man arrested, accused of threatening a shooting, after posting meme

#120
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

uh, bc /r/politics is all about politics and this post is all about politics. Edit - I'm fine with the article, it's abhorrent and relevant. My tongue in cheek comment was about the comments. These comments give me the same feeling of Reddit - angry people arguing over whether someones death was justified or not.

Man getting jailed and having bail set at $2 million for a Facebook post isn’t “politics”.

Then what was it? Standard procedure?
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