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I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

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Re: I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

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Post by NitpickLawyer »

hawk_ wrote: post #110
fallinditch wrote: post #9

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Probably a dumb question but when I watch poker on TV I see that the aggressive players tend to win, so why do the losers let themselves get intimidated?

In poker, like in trading, the key is knowing when you have an edge and being aggressive but also knowing when you have a losing have and cut your losses. It's the balance that makes a good player/trader.

> the key is knowing when you have an edge and being aggressive but also knowing when you have a losing have and cut your losses

So basically "You've got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, Know when to walk away, know when to run." :)

Re: I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

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Post by mattmaroon »

vmg12 wrote: post #62
monero-xmr wrote: post #59

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Cash games in person are pretty bad too. Casinos need to make money and they only get it off rake, so they have lately turned a blind eye to collusion. The only safe poker (except among friends) is tournaments, in person, so they randomize the tables properly.

Collusion in live poker games in casinos is not a widespread problem. There is a problem with poker where people always think they are being cheated every time they lose. If you are playing in a casino in person it is very unlikely you are being cheated. If you are playing in a regulated website online that verifies the identities of the customers it is also unlikely you are being cheated. The vast majority of people…

A regulated online casino that verifies identity wouldn’t stop a bot. You’d just sign up under your name and use it. If your bot isn’t colluding it would just look to the casino like you’re good at poker.

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Post by mattmaroon »

LostMyLogin wrote: post #97
danbrooks wrote: post #32

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I've heard (second-hand) that bots were instrumental in the decline of online poker popularity.

The decline of poker started when I woke up on Black Friday to FT, PS, and UB all having the DOJ logo on them.

I had to open a Canadian bank account to get my money out!

Re: I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

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Post by mattmaroon »

JohnMakin wrote: post #23
mattmaroon wrote: post #19

I have to imagine bots have made online poker unwinnable by now, right?

Not really. Maybe in very specific applications of limit (fixed bet size) hold'em, but no limit texas hold'em, the most popular variant online, is very much unsolved, especially in multi-way pots. There are simply too many variables and strategies involved to calculate quickly enough on the fly. For games like omaha, which uses 4 hole cards, this is even harder. Due to advancement of theory and study and popularity o…

I don’t believe it. There are just as many variables involved in writing a short story.

Anyone who thinks machine learning can’t conquer poker is fooling themselves. I used to have bots collect every hand played on major poker sites in the early aughts so I’m sure there’s infinite training data.

And if it can be done we know there’s sufficient financial incentive. So I (former long time professional poker player) feel reasonably confident online poker must be unwinnable by now.

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Post by mattmaroon »

dddgghhbbfblk wrote: post #95
Cool_Caribou wrote: post #84

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I'm an ex online poker pro. You probably don't have the deep understanding of the game you think you have. Bots were already destroying the field up to mid-stakes 10 years ago.

I'm a current online poker pro but probably not for much longer. Bots are a serious and real problem and they do beat the games for a good winrate. But it's still possible to make money even in environments with some bots as long as you can find games with fish. And some games on geofenced sites (the OP said they play in Michigan) or other small pools don't appear to have bot problems.

If a sufficiently good bot exists it must be highly profitable and since its software it would be easy to port to every site. Surely you could just get an address in Michigan cheaply and would have financial incentive to.

I feel like there was (or will be, if it somehow hasn’t yet occurred) a very short gap between one site being unwinnable and all sites being so.

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Post by monero-xmr »

jonahx wrote: post #96
monero-xmr wrote: post #80

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I see it all the time at low stakes cash games. This is how people earn a living

I've played for years, in locations all across the US, and know many other people who've played much more. This is basically not a thing. I encountered it once, decades ago, at Hawaiian Gardens in SoCal. If it's happening regularly it's very obvious, and the floor will quickly become aware of it. As far as making a living, it's easier to learn how to beat live low stakes than to successfully collude, and the latter w…

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Re: I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

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Post by viccis »

throw-10-8 wrote: post #116

you havent needed ai to build this for decades. these random posts are so tiring: “i used ai to make something college freshmen were building in their dorm rooms 20 years ago”

Yep. AI is and will always be good at making stuff where the main coding knowledge requirement is having read the tutorials.

Re: I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

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Post by apt-apt-apt-apt »

monero-xmr wrote: post #59
CobrastanJorji wrote: post #33

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Yes, but it's worse than you'd think, from what I understand. The bots will try to get more than one seat at a table and share information, so that it's even MORE unfair.

Cash games in person are pretty bad too. Casinos need to make money and they only get it off rake, so they have lately turned a blind eye to collusion. The only safe poker (except among friends) is tournaments, in person, so they randomize the tables properly.

Live at the Aria high stakes table!

Today, we've got 6 Las Vegas locals, and 1 rich Chinese tourist.

The LV locals are making small-talk, "hey bro you go to the gym today? Nah my back is super-sore from my last work out. bla bla bla"

All 6 locals have butt-plugs plugged in. Two clenches means, 'I got this'. The tourist doesn't stand a chance.

Re: I played 1k hands of online poker and built a web app with Cursor AI

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Post by rhubarbtree »

sans_souse wrote: post #2

Cool write up. I played online professionally for the year leading up to the big online shutdown. AMA, always love talking poker strategy.

Played a random game the other day and I love it! What’s the best way to learn and get involved? I just want to play socially, happy to lose a little money each time as the cost of fun.
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