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Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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If you are OK with the closed apple ecosystem, sure, but I mean, 20% is not that much for 99% of the population. Don't get me wrong, I really admire what apple has done with the M CPUs, but I personally prefer the freedom of being able to install linux, bsd, windows, and even weirder OSes like Haiku.

I keep hearing this, but I'd venture that a majority of those making it will most likely end up on Windows full time anyway. Which is not materially worse than MacOS, no matter how much MacOS is shooting themselves in the foot.

With WSL2, Windows is better, sad, but true.

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I keep hearing this, but I'd venture that a majority of those making it will most likely end up on Windows full time anyway. Which is not materially worse than MacOS, no matter how much MacOS is shooting themselves in the foot.

With WSL2, Windows is better, sad, but true.

Hahahahhahahahahhahahahahaha

No.

Even if it was better than lima (and the builtin posix/unix environment), which: it ain’t, it doesn’t nearly make a dent in the mandatory online account, copilot shit and all the rest.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Frankly it’s borderline unethical that they offered 8gb models past like…M1. 12gb isn’t enough IMO for anyone who wants a machine that will last but at least it’s a step in the right direction. My friend with an M3 MacBook was complaining about the speed. I told them that was ridiculous and they must be doing something incredibly intensive. I came and took a look at it - I know chrome tabs are a memory hog but my God…

I am totally satisfied with the utility of my Apple Silicon Mac mini that is now 5 years old. Calling it "unethical" shows you have a weird point of view out of touch with mainstream use cases.

No need for a personal attack dude.

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Each Ryzen generation increased performance significantly, so AMD is definitely not asleep at the wheel.

I'm talking specifically about their mobile lineup, not desktop. And more specifically the performance to power efficiency the M series is getting. It is more than 2 generations behind.

Each Ryzen mobile generation also improved efficiency, in particularly the last generation (AI PRO 300).

Intel, on the other hand, started a few generation ago with an edge in terms of efficiency, and now they're behind; they are definitely the one that fell asleep.

The fact that ARM may have unreachable efficiency doesn't mean that AMD, as x86 producer, is doing nothing.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Frankly it’s borderline unethical that they offered 8gb models past like…M1. 12gb isn’t enough IMO for anyone who wants a machine that will last but at least it’s a step in the right direction. My friend with an M3 MacBook was complaining about the speed. I told them that was ridiculous and they must be doing something incredibly intensive. I came and took a look at it - I know chrome tabs are a memory hog but my God…

> I know chrome tabs are a memory hog but my God this thing slowed to a crawl with even lightweight usage despite being weeks old. I told him to return it immediately. Wouldn’t it be easier to use Firefox or Safari? Chrome is a hog but it’s not like we don’t have multiple great alternatives which also use something like half of the battery and don’t oppose privacy measures.

Not my computer, I’m not going to say “don’t like your computer? Change browsers.” They returned it, got a little more ram, and they’re happy now. I don’t know what their use case is that in-depth so I’m not going to tell them to completely change their browsing habits and usage unless they are open to that. $200 later they were happy.

Given the field they are in, I imagine they use chrome like many do for compatibility/testing reasons

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I am totally satisfied with the utility of my Apple Silicon Mac mini that is now 5 years old. Calling it "unethical" shows you have a weird point of view out of touch with mainstream use cases.

Reading on my 8gb M2 Air that I have not once ever felt is lacking.

Glad you’ve had a good experience, maybe we just got a bad computer. But I know what I saw ultimately and what it was was a brand new M3 machine running like crap.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Looks like an improvement over the M4 iPad of: Single Core: ~12% (3679 vs 4133) Multi Core: ~15% (13420 vs 15437) Which is in alignment historically with improvements from a new node improvement. https://browser.geekbench.com/ios_devices/ipad-pro-13-inch-m...

> since M5 will be on the new (smaller) 2nm node AFAIK the M5 is still 3nm being produced at the TSMC N3P node.

Thanks, I updated my wording as such.

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> it seems they all lag about 20% So they are about one generation behind? That's not bad really. What's the AMD or Intel chip equivalent to the M2 or M3? Is somebody making a fanless laptop with it?

Apple is also always at least one generation ahead on the process/lithography too because they buy out all of the initial capacity. That alone accounts for a decent chunk of the difference. I don't think the market is there for fanless non-Mac laptops. Most people would rather have a budget system (no $ for proper passive cooling) or more powerful system.

> Most people would rather have a budget system

The low end of the market is for sure bigger but I think Apple has shown that the higher end can be profitable too. Dell, HP, Lenovo, and the other big laptop makers aren't afraid of having a thousand different SKUs. They could add one more for a higher end machine that's fanless.

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For the same price you have an AMD Ryzen AI 9 365 which has 50% higher performance in cpubenchmark

Double lol https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-amd_ryzen_ai_9_365... Edit: Looks like OP stealth edited "double" to "50%". Still lol.

I edited 15sec after posting but you got me on speed.

It's interesting I've seen that often on trending posts. There is enough traffic that any variation of a comment will have readers

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