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Also true of favorite restaurants and childhood haunts. Things change and interests move on.
And nightclubs. There was one in the small city I went to university in and (later on) lived in for about a decade, that catered to a fairly specific subcultural melange (goth, punk, alt rock). Bit of a dive it must be said, but cheap drinks when we were students. It didn’t change with the times at all and the subcultures themselves went into decline or just aged-out of being club-goers. On closing night it was ramme…
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#112Performative radicalism that freaks out wider society instead of slow steady progress has led to the near complete irrelevance of the left in the west, especially the anglosphere. I mean, UK Labor is a centrist pro-capital party now. It's over.
Naive idealism mixed with immaturity leads to these things. Wishing for things to be so doesn’t make them so. Someone somewhere has to work for things to happen. To me it feels like when a parasite finds a weak host. Neither will survive long. The relationship can be symbiotic but that requires effort as well as conscientiousness on both sides. The place was not running at break even but they wanted more despite that…
Given the right priorities, it can work. A business can be profitable, and also embody progressive principles. It can be both an income, and socially responsible.
But most businesses fail. 90% or so don't survive 5 years. That's before adding externalities.
So starting a business with goals orthogonal to successful business is twice as hard.
I was struck by the demand by employees to be a collective. Thats an unusual request. It suggests that, even hired, that was floated as a path. It suggests the owner wanted employees to be "part of the family". So suddenly getting decisions from on high was jarring for them.
Unionising is a strange response. (Even the union was surprised.) Frankly the writing was on the wall at that point. A more experienced business person would just have closed then and there.
Obviously the employees thought that they could have succeeded had they just got the stock for free. I suspect not. They wanted more pay, would have had no incoming monthly investment, and would be short at least 1 worker (enough was likely doing a lot of work.) Doesn't sound like a solid business plan to me.
So yes, idealism is fine, but it doesn't make the business work. And I agree, in this case it killed it. But frankly, starting a bookshop these days is a pretty doomed approach. A (good) coffee shop (with some books) may have had a chance.
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Radical left-wingers subdivide into two groups: 1. Those who intuitively understand power dynamics and endeavor towards a "don't kill, and don't be killed[0]" mentality, even if they understand that the radical change they want is generational 2. People who want to wear the boot To be clear, every organization and movement has #2. Libertarian conservatives are chock full of Trump bootlickers, neoliberals were basical…
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https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html > Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading.
Hypocrisy news is more like it.
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Fortunately, the status quo was bravely rescued by the Guardian's non-fact-based yet effective discovery of Corbyn's antisemitism. Gotta love such center-left newspapers.
Well Corbyns been hard at work proving them right. At least people should be pondering how making palestine a cornerstone of his political ideology would meaningfully help Britain. Unrelated but it's something George Galloway should think about. I accidently listened to about 30 seconds of him talking and he seems to be a captivating speaker. Anyway what sunk corbyn wasn't his anti semitism, that was the excuse, but…
Re: The death of east London's most radical bookshop
#117Performative radicalism that freaks out wider society instead of slow steady progress has led to the near complete irrelevance of the left in the west, especially the anglosphere. I mean, UK Labor is a centrist pro-capital party now. It's over.
What I wonder is how this didn't also happen to the right.
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What I wonder is how this didn't also happen to the right.
> What I wonder is how this didn't also happen to the right. Well, the "right", or more aptly conservatives, actively resist change in culture and society. They conserve it (hence the name).
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> What I wonder is how this didn't also happen to the right. Well, the "right", or more aptly conservatives, actively resist change in culture and society. They conserve it (hence the name).
Also incorrect. The current crop of so-called conservatives are extremely radical.
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#120There’s a failure-mode of liberal open mindedness, where your mind is so open your brain falls out.