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Austria hails 'brain gain' in luring 25 academics away from US after cuts

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Re: Austria hails 'brain gain' in luring 25 academics away from US after cuts

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Even if they were full professors, 25 seems like a literal drop in the bucket. There are 187 R1 universities in the US. Competition for professorships is so intense that a lot of people look at grad school as a sucker's bet. I'm happy for these people and for Austria, but I don't see a real news story here.

Austria has 9 million people. Scaled up in proportion to US population, that's the equivalent of ~940 academics. Still not huge, but a somewhat bigger drop.

Re: Austria hails 'brain gain' in luring 25 academics away from US after cuts

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post #73

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Not gonna lie I also read it as Australia....

don't worry, austrians get that all the time. i always have to point out that i am talking about the one in europe, next to germany, before it clicks with people

Fun fact: there is a thing called an O-Bahn in Australia. Surely I mean Austria?

Surprisingly, no: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O-Bahn_Busway

Re: Austria hails 'brain gain' in luring 25 academics away from US after cuts

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I follow a few Australian folks on social media, and it was really surprising to see how much of an Asian/Chinese influence there is. Asian flavors, signage, brands, even slang. It’s a departure from American cultural hegemony that I (as an American) just did not expect. After wrongly thinking for my entire life that Aussies were basically American cowboys plus crocodiles, I now see news like this as just part of a f…

I was just waiting for someone to confuse Austria with Australia :)

Re: Austria hails 'brain gain' in luring 25 academics away from US after cuts

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post #94

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Yeah, I could tell. I was playing dumb while pointing out some good Austrians. Didn't know about [Show Dead] though, thanks for the tip!

Pardon my missing the playing dumb :/ Glad the tip was appreciated. Still, hashtag NotAllAustrians: Russell Crowe, John Clarke, Jacinda Ardern, Keith Urban, Jane Campion, the Finn brothers et al. all raised the bar.

Meh. Your joke here, like a kangaroo, has too many leaps. None of these were even born on the West Island.

Re: Austria hails 'brain gain' in luring 25 academics away from US after cuts

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post #73

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don't worry, austrians get that all the time. i always have to point out that i am talking about the one in europe, next to germany, before it clicks with people

Fun fact: there is a thing called an O-Bahn in Australia. Surely I mean Austria? Surprisingly, no: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O-Bahn_Busway

huh, why is that? people don't believe that australia has trains? wait, this isn't even a train but a bus. does o-bahn sound too german?

Re: Austria hails 'brain gain' in luring 25 academics away from US after cuts

#116
post #74

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Suspicious that the EU claims to "promote gender equality" while turning a blind eye to the male only conscription perpetrated by EU members Austria, Finland, etc

It is a lot easier to come up with new rules for a project that requires proactively making investments (where it is assumed they will be selective anyway), than it is to convince a country to change their military policy.

> convince a country to change their military policy

Maybe they can't force them but the EU has mechanisms to punish illiberal behavior like the fines they are charging Hungary.

They should start fining countries that do make only drafts, at least to start a conversation about it.

Re: Austria hails 'brain gain' in luring 25 academics away from US after cuts

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For numbers, it's nearly 1% of all post-docs (~3400) in those three universities, leaving at once, to a single destination. You can do the math. It's a fact that the USA used to attract this talent, not export it.

Academics have always been leaving the US, just like Academics have always been coming to the US. A turnover in staff is normal , it has happened everywhere, always. >It's a fact that the USA used to attract this talent, not export it. And where is the evidence that it does not? People leaving is normal . Post-docs leave institution's all the time. One additional thought. If you think this is about a right wing polit…

Articles like this are the evidence. The news is not the specific number, but the growing trend [1] of academics looking to leave the US due to turmoil, cancelled grants, visas and the general political climate.

There are at least a half dozen other EU countries with right wing governments. Austria’s current chancellor is centre-right, and thank god most “far right” parties in Europe are still kilometers away from their US counterparts, and would not dare interfere in academia in any way similar to Trump’s doings.

[1] https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00938-y

Re: Austria hails 'brain gain' in luring 25 academics away from US after cuts

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Fun fact: there is a thing called an O-Bahn in Australia. Surely I mean Austria? Surprisingly, no: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O-Bahn_Busway

huh, why is that? people don't believe that australia has trains? wait, this isn't even a train but a bus. does o-bahn sound too german?

Yeah, the name. I saw a reference to an Australian system called o-Bahn a while back, thought that it _must_ be a typo for Austria, but, no, it actually is Australian.

Re: Austria hails 'brain gain' in luring 25 academics away from US after cuts

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post #66

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Either it's too hard or it would show a nothing-burger. Anecdotes are better for spreading misinformation when you're constrained by being factual.

Can you point out the misinformation?

Calling it a "brain drain" when it's only 25 people. You can probably find 25 Austrian academics going to America and write the same brain drain article about that at the same time.
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