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Microsoft has urged its employees on H-1B and H-4 visas to return immediately

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This is not what functioning bureaucracy in a functioning democracy looks like.

H1Bs are slave labor and the program is used primarily by sweat shop consultancies who pay them less than Americans. This will be incredible for Americans looking for work. They don't have to compete with artificially cheap workers.

When I think of slavery I usually think of working for free, not H1B tech worker salaries which are insanely high on a global scale. It's also something people actively sign up for.

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Guam is going to see an influx of people too far away to get to conus

Guam and other US territories in the Pacific like American Samoa have their own immigration systems that are not identical to the mainland. I'm not sure how this intersects with H-1B validity, but it would be an expensive gamble to find out.

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Skimming the articles I don't see the source of the 15 hour urgency. Seems like the fee is on new visas - what's promoting Microsoft to send this notice to existing people?

Reading a thread on r/immigration involving multiple immigration lawyers and corporate lawyers※, the Executive Order wording is apparently unclear and leaves CBP agents with discretion (which can obviously cause confusion and not apply the same rules to everyone). Much easier for the companies to recommend/insist on folks fly back before the deadline to avoid issues. ※ - https://www.reddit.com/r/immigration/comments/…

This level of uncertainty just makes the United States toxic for business and investment. How is this Making America Great Again, again?

Re: Microsoft has urged its employees on H-1B and H-4 visas to return immediately

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Employers have said these workers are critical and they can’t find any workers already in America to do these roles. FAANG are by far the largest users of H1-B. They also have billions of dollars and access to excellent lawyers. They can pay up for this; an excellent employee is certainly worth more than $100k per year to them. Think of this more as a tax levied on some of America’s wealthiest businesses.

I think it's mostly targeted at these IT firms that are 75% H1-B doing help desk for $50k/yr.

So create a policy that specifically solves that. This is madness.

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This is not what functioning bureaucracy in a functioning democracy looks like.

H1Bs are slave labor and the program is used primarily by sweat shop consultancies who pay them less than Americans. This will be incredible for Americans looking for work. They don't have to compete with artificially cheap workers.

> H1Bs are slave labor

How did we get to a point where people casually call H1B tech workers often earning $120K or more “slave labor”?

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I'm actually not sure who this is. Can you please name drop?

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/normalised-indi...

Had to Wikipedia this guy. Wow.

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Life quality wise West Europe is still the best place on this planet.

Remember, Australia is a hellhole full of things that will kill you. Ignore all rumors about a great climate, laid back lifestyle, plenty of jobs, solid work life balance, low crime, a good social safety net, and that you're never actually going to see a crocodile/scorpion/drop bear/inland taipan in any major city. (The one about insane house prices is, alas, true.)

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Trump is a populist. He is doing tons of populist things. This is another Bernie Sanders policy. Bernie is also a populist. The differences between them are mostly "two-sides of the same coin" https://www.sanders.senate.gov/op-eds/h1-b-visas-hurt-one-ty...

"Return in 15hr or pay $100k" I didn't see that on Bernie's website.

Trump is an uncompassionate brute.

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If the $100k fee was then designated for STEM scholarships for underserved students, this policy would be continued even by the democrats. If the justification of H1B is that the US does not produce enough engineers, let’s financially encourage the domestic supply.

It's true they may agree in principle that the program needs reform. But culture war isn't policy. The actual policy implementation would look very different when motivated by good faith vs. hating brown people.

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>Some employers have exploited the program to hold down wages, disadvantaging U.S. workers, Change "Some" to "All major employers". I worked at a fortune 500 company in IT and all they hired were H1B employees over the past 15/20 years. The last raise we got that was above inflation and health insurance increases was before 2000. I left 2 years ago and after I left they fired almost everyone in the IT Dept I was in a…

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