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We have Marginalia which serves a specific use-case: https://about.marginalia-search.com/
That's what I was expecting this submission to be about, although to be honest I'm not certain that Marginalia would want the influx of a fastcompany sized tire kicking
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#112It claims I reached the article limit. The last time I saw a fastcompany link must have been a decade ago! I was nostalgically looking forward to read another article of theirs. Alas... https://archive.is/HA7y4 Some bits and pieces: > his new search engine, the robust Search-a-Page https://searcha.page >, which has a privacy-focused variant called Seek Ninja https://seek.ninja > > The secret to making it all happen?…
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#113I always wondered why someone couldn't do this. Google was invented many years ago by two guys in a dorm room and since then there's been so many white papers and advancements in the public sphere and the actual underlying problem has not changed that much, that it seems like it could be done by a small group or independent person.
Crawling is much more difficult than it used to be. Significantly more content is behind a login, Javascript is required for way more than it should be, and almost the entire web is behind cloudflare or another type of captcha.
The parts that absolutely require JS can't be reliably linked to and nobody indexes that stuff. Most apparent SPA:s serve a HTML alternative if you don't claim to be a web browser in the UA.
Cloudflare and the like are also fairly easy to deal with as long as your crawler is well behaved. You can register the fingerprint and mostly get access to cf:ed websites.
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#114I know that Google engineers have a cushy life but I actually find it unlikely that a guy, who isn't attempting some radical new type of search (like pagerank back in the day) can hope to compete with the orgs in Google who support search. Again, those orgs are likely too comfortable and less productive than people would like, but we're talking about many-many thousands and depending upon how you define "the work" of…
Building a state-of-the-art search engine is not shoelaces. But upwards of 10k workers is not impressive in the right direction.
One person starting out with anything at all can quickly grow into one person with one or two really innovative ideas. One or two good ideas can catch fire pretty quickly. Don't be too dismissive.
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#115"The beefy CPU running this setup, a 32-core AMD EPYC 7532, underlines just how fast technology moves. At the time of its release in 2020, the processor alone would have cost more than $3,000. It can now be had on eBay for less than $200" why do I never get deals like that when I am shopping for the homelab on eBay?
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#117I understand companies like Perplexity or Brave or DuckDuckGo "rivialing Google", but building a hobby index and crawler is nice, and worthy of a "Show HN: "... but an actual media article?
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#118I was trying to do this in 2023! The hardest part about building a search engine is not the actual searching though, it is (like others here have pointed out), building your index and crawling the (extremely adversarial) internet, especially when you're running the thing from a single server in your own home without fancy rotating IPs. I hope this guy succeeds and becomes another reference in the community like the m…
You might want to bookmark https://openwebsearch.eu/open-webindex/ While the index is currently not open source, it should be at some point. Maybe when they get out of the beta stage (?) details are yet unclear.
I'll add it to the mile-long list of things that should exist and be online public goods.
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#119What are some good practices these days to ensure a good crawl/scrape? Invest in proxies, preferably residential?
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#120I tried the search site at https://searcha.page/ by searching for something random and got the following message: "An error has occurred building the search results."