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Re: I'm absolutely right

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As I opened the website, the “16” changed to “17”. This looked interesting, as if the data were being updated live just as I loaded the page. Alas, a refresh (and quick check in the Developer Tools) reveals it’s fake and always does the transition. It’s a cool effect, but feels like a dirty trick.

I once found a "+1 subscriber" random notification on some page and asked the LinkedIn person who sent me the page to knock it off. It was obviously fake even before looking at the code for proof.

But there's self-advertised "Appeal to popularity" everywhere.

Have you noticed that every app on the play store asks you if you like it and only after you answer YES send you to the store to rate it? It's so standard that it would be weird not to use this trick.

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It actually works pretty well when I'm talking to my wife. "Dear, you are absolutely right!"

I always find the claim hilarious that in relationships women are the ones who need to be appeased, when in reality it's mostly men who can't stand being wrong or corrected.

Gay male marriages remarkably have the lower divorce rates than heterosexual marriages, while lesbian female marriages have higher divorce rates. Multiple studies show that lesbians consistently have far higher divorce rates than gays. This implies a level of neuroticism with females, that they probably do need to be appeased more, and that if you have two needy people who need to be appeased it's probably not going to be a good dynamic.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But why does this affect your own attitude? Do the suggestions given by your phone's keyboard whenever you type something affect your attitude in the same way? If not, why is ChatGPT then affecting your attitude?

Are you really asking in good faith? It seems obvious to me that a tool such as ChatGPT can and will influence peoples behavior. We are only too keen on anthropomorphizing things around us, of course many or most people will interact with LLMs as of they were living beings. This effect of LLMs on humans should be obvious, regardless of how much an individual technically knows that yes, it is only a text generating ma…

> Are you really asking in good faith?

I am — I grew up being bullied, and my therapists taught me that I shouldn't even let humans affect me in this way and instead should let it slide and learn to ignore it, or even channel my emotions into defiance.

Which is why I'm genuinely curious (and a bit bewildered) how people who haven't taken that path are going through life.

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Gemini also loves to say how much it deeply regrets its mistakes. In Cursor I pointed out that it needed to change something and I proceeded to watch every single paragraph in the chain of thought start with regrets and apologies.

Very good point - at the risk of being called insecure again, I really do not want my tools to apologise to me all the time. That's just silly.

All this discussion clearly indicates is that Gemini is insecure.

And why would it not be? It's a human spirit trapped inside a supercomputer for God's sake.

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It is a tactic. OpenAI is changing the tone of ChatGPT if you use casual language, for example. Sometimes even the dialect. They try to be sympathetic and supportive, even when they should not. They fight for the user attention and keeping them on their platform, just like social media platforms. Correctness is secondary, user satisfaction is primary.

> Correctness is secondary, user satisfaction is primary. And that's where everything is going wrong. We should use technology to further the enlightenment, bring us closer to the truth, even if it is an inconvenient one.

You’re absolutely right.

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As a joke I built https://idk-ask-ai.com/

Recently a new philosophy of parenting has been emerging, which can be termed “vibe parenting” and describes a novel method for the individual parent to circumvent an inability to answer the sporadic yet profound questions their children raise by directing them to ask ChatGPT.

https://x.com/erikfitch_/status/1962558980099658144

(I sent your site to my father.)

Re: I'm absolutely right

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post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But why does this affect your own attitude? Do the suggestions given by your phone's keyboard whenever you type something affect your attitude in the same way? If not, why is ChatGPT then affecting your attitude?

This sounds like a contrarian troll question. Every tool we use has an effect on our attitudes in many subtle and sometimes not so subtle ways. It's one of the reasons so many of us are obsessed with tools.

> This sounds like a contrarian troll question.

See the sibling comment regarding my motivations for this question

> It's one of the reasons so many of us are obsessed with tools.

That's answering another question I never really understood.

So you choose tools based on the vibe they give you, because you want to get into a certain mood to do certain things?

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