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Nintendo Switch 2 Dock USB-C Compatibility

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Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Dock USB-C Compatibility

#111

They did this to micro sd cards on the first switch. Looks like they found another way. Nintendo isn’t customer friendly. Gone are the days of the N64 and gone are the days of Nintendo pushing the boundaries of fun and entertainment. Now, they make underpowered handhelds for kids with proprietary dongles like Apple in hopes of trapping their customers to their platform. No thanks.

Like the Game Boy? Or the 3DS?

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Dock USB-C Compatibility

#112
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems Nintendo has good reasons not to support it with 3rd party devices: Their own dock has active cooling, so with generic dongles the switch wouldn't be able to enter the docked performance mode (or have to throttle down pretty soon) and would have to output a blurry mess to 4k screens. Not a great user experience.

I recall reading that the dock’s cooling is for its own internals rather than those of the switch.

It’s for the dock yes, but a dock passing its heat to the console is no bueno since the console pushes its hardware in docked mode.

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Dock USB-C Compatibility

#113
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're surprised they still exist... because they target wider audiences?

No, his point was that the lab isn't necessary for the content ltt is producing, so he expected them to stop the lab project to keep the profits higher

That's always been the case though, even when labs started.

The reason labs was started was to be able to produce different kinds of content, and to have a moat on technical data and quality of reviews that no one else can pull off.

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Dock USB-C Compatibility

#114
post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nintendo was and is primarily a toy company. The deal is if you buy their stuff you get entertainment. You're pretending it's a general purpose computer to make a point about interoperability, but it's neither. What kind of 'shit' do they pull with Switch 2 they already didn't with Switch 1? Both are expensive DRM locked game devices, Switch 2 is just a bit faster.

> What kind of 'shit' do they pull with Switch 2 they already didn't with Switch 1? The shit that the linked article is about, for one.

The Switch 1 was worse and could even be bricked by a third party dock. So nothing new there.

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Dock USB-C Compatibility

#115
post #33

Back in COVID times, when I had all the time in the world, my Switch got bricked after I charged it using my laptop charger. Nintendo refused to honor its warranty, citing some mumbo jumbo about proprietary USB-C hardware. Fortunately, we have pretty good consumer protection laws here in Australia By the end of an entire two month saga, they sent me a brand new Switch. I always did think it was odd that a USB-C cable…

Switch 2 seems to be more up to standard. I was able to charge it with a normal phone charger and also the Switch 2 charger seems to work with everything else unlike the one for Switch 1. Fortunately I never bricked anything with that, but it just never worked with anything other than the console.

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Dock USB-C Compatibility

#116
post #33

Back in COVID times, when I had all the time in the world, my Switch got bricked after I charged it using my laptop charger. Nintendo refused to honor its warranty, citing some mumbo jumbo about proprietary USB-C hardware. Fortunately, we have pretty good consumer protection laws here in Australia By the end of an entire two month saga, they sent me a brand new Switch. I always did think it was odd that a USB-C cable…

USB-C was really really really rough in the early years. The switch 1 was one of the first products to come out with USB-C IIRC.

"rough" doesn't explain any of what's happening here.

Nintendo messed up, that's it.

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Dock USB-C Compatibility

#117

At such times I wish the USB consortium would flex their muscles. A high profile case that maliciously breaks interoperability.

If USB consortium cared about being consumer friendly, they would have mandated that USB cables clearly mark their capabilities, and require that every cable must transmit data.

Instead we have this mess where you don't know whether a cable is good for laptop charging, and whether that same cable can be used for data in addition to charging. (skipping that data wire saves a few cents, that sounds like a great idea!)

So nothing will come out of them regarding Nintendo's behavior.

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Dock USB-C Compatibility

#119
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree that their behavior is user-hostile, but doing it their way gets rid of all of the ambiguity involved with USB C. I kind of understand why they would rather break their USBC support intentionally and make it very clear that video out is only happening with their dock. Especially considering their audiences.

> doing it their way gets rid of all of the ambiguity involved with USB C At that point, why use USB-C for the dock connection at all? Just use a proprietary connector if you're not going to follow the standards. Having a separate USB-C port for charging should satisfy e.g. the EU regulations requiring that, I think. (Assuming that is the reason they used USB-C in the first place)

> At that point, why use USB-C for the dock connection at all?

To satisfy charging expectations with the same port as display that they decided to do something proprietary with. On the flip side, why not do that when people will buy the console no matter what?

Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Dock USB-C Compatibility

#120
post #33

Back in COVID times, when I had all the time in the world, my Switch got bricked after I charged it using my laptop charger. Nintendo refused to honor its warranty, citing some mumbo jumbo about proprietary USB-C hardware. Fortunately, we have pretty good consumer protection laws here in Australia By the end of an entire two month saga, they sent me a brand new Switch. I always did think it was odd that a USB-C cable…

Back in that time, my switch broke twice. And I eventually find out. If I am using one of the e-marked wire with the switch, the port get destroyed immediately. Every single device in my room works with that wire exactly like it should. Except for switch. Their typec port is so broken, and not broke in a safe way.
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