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For me, the sad part about dying isn’t the loss of agency in the world as much as missing the rest of the movie. At 43 I already feel like I’ve mostly realized my potential and I’m just here to raise my kids and then I become a burden. But I really want to know what happens next!
Your never done raising your kids regardless of how old they are.
New research reveals longevity gains slowing, life expectancy of 100 unlikely
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Two points: (1) Yes we do have an example: us. Why is a baby’s cells young and healthy, and not the age of the parents? Dormant eggs are not the answer as you’d still get accumulating damage over time. Turns out there are mechanisms for cellular reprogramming which rejuvenates cells. There are mechanisms for making ages cells indistinguishable from young cells. We just haven’t fully harnessed this capability on thera…
> No physical law prevents restoring tissue to healthy young state. We just haven’t developed the tools to do so (yet) You’re speculating too far beyond what we know to speak so definitively. Plenty of biology and even thermodynamics suggests there may be limits. That doesn’t prove they exist. But it’s in the same category as saying there are no know physics which prohibit time travel or transcending the human condit…
Diseased old cells have accumulated damage in a multitude of different forms, as well as accumulated junk. Fix the errors and remove the junk. It is as easy and as hard as that.
Nothing in thermodynamics or organic chemistry prevents this from being possible in principle.
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#113There is no physical/chemical/biological reason you can’t live indefinitely with the health and vitality of a 25-35 year old. Aging isn’t a law of nature.
>There is no physical/chemical/biological reason you can’t live indefinitely Given that that the universe hasn't an indefinite life span there is at least physical reason why we can't live indefinitely.
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You're not dreaming big enough. "Accept death, it's beautiful" is cope. It's not beautiful. It's suboptimal horror. I find it offensive that so many "universe experiencing itself" entities willingly accept a return to dust. Our sun dies, and with it everything on this planet will become metal inclusions in a decaying solar body. You know what doesn't matter in light of that? All other perspectives. Every other concep…
>Something from earth should conquer the vastness of spacetime and physics. I hear this claim often, but I never hear any particular reason for why it's so important compared to e.g. letting Alpha Centauri colonize where the lightcones overlap.
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#115I think it’s fine. When I get older I’m more intrigued whether there is an afterlife, whatever it is.
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#116Re: New research reveals longevity gains slowing, life expectancy of 100 unlikely
#117There is no physical/chemical/biological reason you can’t live indefinitely with the health and vitality of a 25-35 year old. Aging isn’t a law of nature.
> no physical/chemical/biological reason you can’t live indefinitely with the health and vitality of a 25-35 year old We don’t know this. We know of no creatures as biologically complex as humans that demonstrate biological immortality. That might be because nature never bothered. It might be because it can’t. But you are generally correct: we have strong evidence healthspan-increasing interventions are not only poss…
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#118In the political sphere, some countries are tearing themselves apart on the question of immigration and identity. But immigration is the only thing that can replenish their workforce.
So, we are paying an extremely high cost for letting God go on with His Slow Tormentous Cooking of Souls before Consumption, and things are only going to get worse, given the demographic expectations. Wouldn’t it make sense to put a big chunk of budget into creating life-extension tech?
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#119What about quality of life adjusted life years? I don’t want to live to 100 and be miserable for the last 30 But if you can get me 90 years where I feel like a spring chicken until 89, then that’s just fine.
Yes, the term is “health span” and that’s basically what everyone is talking about every single time you read an article on the subject.