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The share of Americans having regular sex keeps dropping

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Re: The share of Americans having regular sex keeps dropping

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Post by fruitworks »

tialaramex wrote: post #57
fruitworks wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is sex ed positively correlated with greater fertility and frequency of sex? I expect the opposite is true.

I would expect it to reduce fertility because we know when you explain to girls how human reproduction actually works fewer of them are onboard because that sure looks like a traumatic experience. Oh so eventually after the other horrible side effects the parasite gets so large I have to push it out of my body through an orifice which is clearly not adequately sized for this purpose? Strong no. But the other part sou…

I think you are trying to come up with an individualistic argument for why sex ed should exist.

I'm just saying that observationally, traditional societies and sub-societies with worse sex ed that are less "sexually enlightened" tend to have more sex and fertility. Maybe it has something to do with breaking taboo?

Re: The share of Americans having regular sex keeps dropping

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Post by notahacker »

iamacyborg wrote: post #102
cush wrote: post #78

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All good points. Work from home isn’t helping us any either. People typically meet their partners at work.

> People typically meet their partners at work. That seems unlikely. Genuinely curious if there’s something I’m missing here.

This paper suggests meeting people directly or indirectly via work was second to meeting through friends around the turn of the century, though there was a wide spread of how people met so it only amounted to a fifth of couples. Then online took over....

https://web.stanford.edu/~mrosenfe/Rosenfeld_et_al_Disinterm...

Re: The share of Americans having regular sex keeps dropping

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Post by iamacyborg »

mathiaspoint wrote: post #105
iamacyborg wrote: post #98

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Sure, some guys are tired of their bad behaviour being called out, but that’s precisely why it needs to still be called out.

It turns out egalitarianism is antinatilist. Antinatilist ideologies cannot persist long term so continuing that isn't an option. The two available options are: a) double down, die out, and get replaced by actual misogynists (ie Muslims, cartels etc) b) find a nice compromise that actually works and minimizes people who get abused (like US culture 100 years ago or maybe something else.) You're welcome to participate…

> b) find a nice compromise that actually works and minimizes people who get abused (like US culture 100 years ago or maybe something else.

Ah yes, the US was famously good a century ago.

Remind me, when did Jim Crow get repealed?

Re: The share of Americans having regular sex keeps dropping

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Post by impish9208 »

stickfigure wrote: post #24

Article is written by a conservative think tank pushing traditional family values. The statistics might or might not be valid but I wouldn't take their word for it.

The underlying study is the General Social Survey (GSS) out of NORC/University of Chicago, a dependable source for these types of data since the 1970’s. I can’t speak for the IFS, but yours seems to be a classic case of discounting the message because you don’t like the messenger.

Re: The share of Americans having regular sex keeps dropping

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Post by mathiaspoint »

miltonlost wrote: post #100
mathiaspoint wrote: post #60

Nearly all in person interaction is a meaningless waste of time now. The only thing really left is sex and work. You're not supposed to have sex with your coworkers (if you even have a job where you work in person) and everyone is shamed for going to places specifically for sex so there's literally no way too initiate that kind of relationship anymore.

> Nearly all in person interaction is a meaningless waste of time now. This says more about you than it does society.

If everyone is experiencing it then it is, infact, a societal problem. That's what the whole thread is about.

Re: The share of Americans having regular sex keeps dropping

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Post by mathiaspoint »

iamacyborg wrote: post #113
mathiaspoint wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It turns out egalitarianism is antinatilist. Antinatilist ideologies cannot persist long term so continuing that isn't an option. The two available options are: a) double down, die out, and get replaced by actual misogynists (ie Muslims, cartels etc) b) find a nice compromise that actually works and minimizes people who get abused (like US culture 100 years ago or maybe something else.) You're welcome to participate…

> b) find a nice compromise that actually works and minimizes people who get abused (like US culture 100 years ago or maybe something else. Ah yes, the US was famously good a century ago. Remind me, when did Jim Crow get repealed?

Not a counter argument.

Re: The share of Americans having regular sex keeps dropping

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Post by swasheck »

i wonder if the antisocial trend that has been discussed here have led to an unhealthy skepticism of others. tiktok videos that tell my late teen daughter that a boy who doesn’t check _all_ the boxes is unfit or unworthy of relationship and intimacy. there’s wisdom in looking for flags (red, green, or otherwise) if you’re seeking a committed relationship, but they honestly create so much fear and skepticism in her (and her peer group) and functionally objectify boys as emotional and practical vending machines that are held to a 100% standard. essentially they are a different form of pornography that sets up unrealistic expectations for potential partners.

instead of using it as a tool and saying “hey, let’s try this” (sexually, emotionally, practically), they’re conditioned to just pull the ripcord if you don’t meet expectations

Re: The share of Americans having regular sex keeps dropping

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Post by hereme888 »

mstipetic wrote: post #94
hereme888 wrote: post #49

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You should address some deep seated insecurity there. I’m currently in a country in Central Europe and have been to a traditional festival and the traditional garments are REALLY not modest lol

Traditional is not the same conservative or modesty.
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