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If you have a Claude account, they're going to train on your data moving forward

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Re: If you have a Claude account, they're going to train on your data moving forward

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Post by MaJiX19 »

Unbelievable. This is on par ethically with bad Meta decisions as far as privacy is concerned. What a dark pattern! What a mess! Look at this botched rollout... It's not ok to do this folks. This is literally what the modal looked like for me on chats that were already in progress. And NO I did not want them to train on this or ANY OF MY DATA UNDER A DIFFERENT CONTRACT.

Anthropic PR: "Ma'am, you opted IN to training on your therapy sessions and intellectual property and algorithms and salary and family history!" Don't you remember the modal???

The Modal: https://imgur.com/afqMi0Z

Re: If you have a Claude account, they're going to train on your data moving forward

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Post by novok »

aatd86 wrote: post #93

I don't know what they've been training on but I just canceled claude for the second time. Besides the numerous UI bugs of the web interface, incessant flickerings, it has gotten weirdly super condescending and negative in a way I hadn't observed neither in the past nor with other llms. Probably that people accused it of being sycophantic and they have tried to adjust it but they didn't do it well. It'd rather critic…

They need adjustable dials like they do in some API interfaces for power users. Like a sycophancy dial, a safety dial or "turn off the child lock permanently" like they have for microwaves.

Re: If you have a Claude account, they're going to train on your data moving forward

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Post by boredatoms »

some_random wrote: post #61

Title is misleading, they're now opt-out rather than opt-in to your data being used for training. All you have to do is flip a single switch in the options to turn it off, I don't understand why everyone is treating this as being such a big deal. Edit: I just logged in to opt out, they presented me with the switch directly. It was two clicks.

No thats BS, lots of people wont know the default got flipped

Re: If you have a Claude account, they're going to train on your data moving forward

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Post by indigoabstract »

Modern AI is built on data. Trusting that our conversations will not be used for training the model is a bit like giving a glutton their favourite food but making them promise not to eat it. Sure, why not.

I still expect that our conversations will not leave the premises (ie end up on the internet), because that would be something else, but other than that, I knew what I signed up for.

Re: If you have a Claude account, they're going to train on your data moving forward

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Post by ukd1 »

mrdependable wrote: post #96

This going to turn into one of those situations where we find out they trained on everyone whether they opted-out or not down the line. I want to keep using Claude, but I also don't want all the solutions I come up with to become common knowledge.

I think I'm fine with the whole getting better due to something helped it / co find with it. I'm not happy if it's directly 1:1 or attributed to me - chatham house rule for this would be great.

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Post by skybrian »

mrdependable wrote: post #96

This going to turn into one of those situations where we find out they trained on everyone whether they opted-out or not down the line. I want to keep using Claude, but I also don't want all the solutions I come up with to become common knowledge.

When has a company ignored an opt-out preference before? It sounds like you have something in mind.

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Post by nbulka »

indigoabstract wrote: post #114

Modern AI is built on data. Trusting that our conversations will not be used for training the model is a bit like giving a glutton their favourite food but making them promise not to eat it. Sure, why not. I still expect that our conversations will not leave the premises (ie end up on the internet), because that would be something else, but other than that, I knew what I signed up for.

Don't normalize this. There are contractual obligations that we have to enforce in order to keep our privacy and humanity.

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Post by nbulka »

TheRoque wrote: post #68

To be honest, these companies already stole terabytes of data and don't even disclose their dataset, so you have to assume they'll steal and train at anything you throw at them

No you don't. You don't have to assume people are going to be bad! We should not normalize it either.
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