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Post by GuinansEyebrows » Mon, Aug 25, 2025, 6:33 PM UTC

monero-xmr wrote: post #75

fzeroracer wrote: post #66

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> I see an argument for tax cuts everywhere. Taxes are literally brakes on financial transactions. The number 1 way to slow down your economy is to tax every transaction possible as highly as possible. It is an interesting thought experiment to eliminate income and sales taxes, and try to only finance the government via tariffs. Then you don't actually see an argument for tax cuts everywhere. What you want is a tax t…

My preferred way would also to be to eliminate expenditures, but failing that, redirecting taxes in a way that grows the US internal economy as much as possible, and incentives the re-industrialization simultaneously, is an interesting experiment.

Post by timr » Mon, Aug 25, 2025, 6:33 PM UTC

Kye wrote: post #83

timr wrote: post #45

Title is not accurate. They're allowing personal shipments under $100, and the rest can be shipped via their UGX service. It sounds like JP doesn't want to deal with the customs paperwork at scale (edit: also the deposits).

I couldn't find a way to fit all that in the title, so I got 99% there and clarified in the first post. The title still has more resolution toward the full detail than the original title.

Post by tsunamifury » Mon, Aug 25, 2025, 6:33 PM UTC

mlyle wrote: post #98

colechristensen wrote: post #86

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I think it's quite the opposite. Tariffs are flat taxes on corporations AND can't be avoided with the tax shenanigans all big corporations use and many small ones can't. Implementation and motivation details aside I'm in favor of small tariffs for all but the most equal trade partners. Corporate taxes have the problem of small business paying much more proportionally than large ones and a flat tax on businesses that…

In the long run, tariffs basically all fall on the consumer because producer and distributor behavior is near infinitely elastic. Econ 101 predicts that the party who is less able to adjust behavior in reaction to the tax pays most of the tax. In the short run, this isn't true: firms have goods they need to move.

Post by graeme » Mon, Aug 25, 2025, 6:35 PM UTC

colechristensen wrote: post #86

cheema33 wrote: post #34

This needs to be repeated. Tariffs are a tax on ordinary citizens. Unlike regular taxes, tariffs are not progressive and therefore benefit the wealthy. These are the sort of things the poor and middle class voted for. To make the rich, richer. And then turn around and complain that rich are getting richer and they are getting poorer.

I think it's quite the opposite. Tariffs are flat taxes on corporations AND can't be avoided with the tax shenanigans all big corporations use and many small ones can't. Implementation and motivation details aside I'm in favor of small tariffs for all but the most equal trade partners. Corporate taxes have the problem of small business paying much more proportionally than large ones and a flat tax on businesses that…

Post by philwelch » Mon, Aug 25, 2025, 6:35 PM UTC

someotherperson wrote: post #32

philwelch wrote: post #8

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De minimis allows people to evade tariffs by simply drop shipping each individual product all the way from China or wherever, so long as the retail price is below the threshold. I’m skeptical of tariffs in general but if you’re going to have them, it makes sense to close the loopholes.

So execute it for China alone. The issue is that these blanket actions are lazy at best and exclusively populist.