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Writing with LLM is not a shame

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Re: Writing with LLM is not a shame

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At this point, it would be shameful to not write with LLMs. I don't want to spend time reading plain human text when improved AI text is an option.

That's a great point! Large Language Models (LLMs), like GPT-4, offer numerous benefits for writing tasks across various domains. Here’s a breakdown of the key advantages: 1. Enhanced Productivity Faster Drafting: Quickly generate drafts for essays, reports, emails, blog posts, and more. 24/7 Availability: Instant support with no downtime or fatigue. Reduced Writer’s Block: Provides starting points and creative promp…

While your breakdown of LLM “benefits” is thorough, I think it glosses over—or outright ignores—some significant limitations and trade-offs that make the picture far less rosy. It’s easy to frame this technology as an unqualified upgrade to human writing, but that framing is misleading and potentially harmful. Let me go point by point through your categories and explain where the problems lie.

1. Enhanced Productivity

Yes, LLMs can produce text quickly, but speed is not synonymous with quality. Churning out a draft in seconds is only useful if that draft actually advances the writer’s ideas, rather than lulling them into outsourcing thought itself. What often happens is that people mistake “having words on a page” for “having meaningful ideas.” Productivity in writing is not about word count—it’s about clarity of thought, and clarity is something that an LLM cannot supply. It can rearrange existing patterns, but it cannot truly reason or generate original insight. A fast draft is worthless if it’s hollow.

2. Improved Writing Quality

This point assumes that grammar and surface-level polish are the essence of good writing. They are not. Good writing emerges from the writer’s voice, their personality, their quirks, even their mistakes. Grammar-correcting AI tends to standardize expression into a bland, middle-of-the-road prose style. The result is “correct,” but sterile. Moreover, “tone adjustment” and “clarity” are superficial facsimiles of understanding. Simplifying an idea is only valuable if you understand what makes it complex in the first place. AI doesn’t “understand” ideas—it flattens them into patterns of words that look simpler but may remove nuance in the process.

3. Creativity and Ideation

Here is where the hype is the most exaggerated. Brainstorming with an LLM often produces generic, cliché, or predictable results. If you ask for metaphors, you’ll get the most common ones floating around in its training data. If you ask for plots, you’ll get reheated versions of existing tropes. Calling this “creativity” misunderstands what creativity actually is: the human capacity to connect disparate, personal experiences into something novel. An LLM is bounded by statistical averages. It cannot be surprised by itself. Humans, on the other hand, can.

4. Language Versatility

Translation and localization are areas where LLMs seem promising, but again, nuance matters. Language is not merely about syntax or vocabulary; it is deeply cultural, contextual, and historically embedded. Machine translation may be “good enough” for casual use, but it consistently fails to capture subtext, irony, humor, idiom, or cultural resonance. Outsourcing too much of this to AI risks flattening linguistic richness into something utilitarian but impoverished.

5. Research Assistance

This one is especially dangerous. Yes, LLMs can summarize and generate context, but they are notorious for producing confident-sounding misinformation (“hallucinations”). Unless the user already has expertise in the topic, they will not know whether what they’re reading is accurate. This means that instead of empowering research, LLMs encourage intellectual laziness and misinformation at scale. The “citation help” is even worse: fabricated references, garbled bibliographic entries, and misleading formatting are common. Presenting this as a “benefit” is disingenuous without an equally strong warning.

6. Editing and Rewriting

Paraphrasing and consistency checks may sound helpful, but they too come at a cost. When you outsource the act of rewriting, you risk losing the friction that forces you to refine your own ideas. Struggling to find words is not a flaw—it’s part of thinking. Offloading that process to an algorithm encourages passivity. You end up with smoother sentences, but not sharper thoughts. “Consistency” is also a double-edged sword: AI can enforce bland uniformity where variation and individuality might have been more compelling.

7. Customization and Integration

This is just another way of saying “industrialization of writing.” The more writing is engineered through prompts and APIs, the more it shifts from being a human practice to being an automated pipeline. At that point, writing stops being about human connection or expression and becomes just another commodity optimized for scale. That’s fine for spam emails or ad copy, but disastrous if applied to domains where authenticity and trust actually matter (e.g., journalism, education, or literature).

8. Cost Efficiency

Framing this as a cost benefit—“reduces need for human writers”—is perhaps the most telling point in your list. This reduces writing to a purely economic function, ignoring its human and cultural value. The assumption here is that human writers are redundant unless they can outcompete machines on efficiency. That is not just shortsighted; it’s destructive. Human writers don’t merely “generate content”—they interpret, critique, and shape culture. Outsourcing all that to probabilistic models risks a future where the written word is abundant but devoid of depth.

The larger issue is that your entire framing assumes writing is merely a transactional process: input (ideas or tasks) → output (words on a page). But writing is not just about producing text. It is about thinking, communicating, and connecting. By presenting LLMs as a categorical improvement, you erase the most important part of the process: the human struggle to articulate meaning.

So yes, LLMs have uses, but they should be treated as narrow tools with serious limitations—not as the new standard for all writing. To present them otherwise is to flatten human expression into machine-mediated convenience, and to celebrate that flattening as “progress.”

Re: Writing with LLM is not a shame

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post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's really frustrating to have to adjust my writing style to seem more human despite being entirely human. Many of us have been using em dashes for a long time, who else do people think the LLMs learnt it from?

Em dashes are fine in throwaway casual writing like internet comments or tweets or whatever. However, I think that, in any writing that is significant enough that LLM usage is scrutinized, they often just come across as a crutch to avoid more planned out sentence flow. I think it's actually a good thing that people are feeling like they should cut down on them.

Wrong. They show up in some of the best and most widely and intensely read prose that exists, with good reason. Of course, like any tool, they can be misused by people who don't know better.

Re: Writing with LLM is not a shame

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The article is not fluent, it's difficult to read and written in broken English. Possibly not written by AI? Understandable enough but difficult and weirdly painful to read. Definitely don't rely on AI to substitute for a lack of fluency.. . Or maybe do.

The author is a native French speaker (see his "About" page) and I think he is writing in English, which he clearly is not fluent in, to make a point: you can understand his argument, written in broken English, even though he could have run it through AI to clean it up and make it more palatable to a native English speaker.

Re: Writing with LLM is not a shame

#115

AI prose is mediocre right now. Too verbose, indirect constructions, passive, etc. That being said, it's actually a great editor and can pick out all those issues consistently. My workflow right now is to use AI for rough draft and developmental editing stages, then switch AI from changing files to leaving comments on files suggesting I change something. It is slower than letting it line/copyedit itself, but models d…

That's my main criticism as well. Even before we get to the ethical implications of AIs communicating on your behalf without a disclaimer, LLM writing is just poor and making me read through it is disrespectful of my time. I recently had a colleague send me a link to a ChatGPT conversation instead of responding to me. Another colleague organised a quiz where the answers were hallucinated by Grok. In some Facebook gro…

  > In some Facebook groups I'm in where people are meant to help each other, people have started just pasting the questions into ChatGPT and responding with screenshots of the conversation
i get the feeling these ai tools will just further the alienation of society even more...

Re: Writing with LLM is not a shame

#116
post #3

I think it's fair to use AI as an editor, to get feedback about how your ideas are packaged. It's also fair to use it as a clever dictionary, to find the right expressions, or to use correct grammar and spelling. (This post could really use a round of corrections.) But in the end, the message and the reasoning should be yours, and any facts that come from the LLM should be verified. Expecting people to read unverifie…

> Expecting people to read unverified machine output is rude. Quite. Its the attention economy, you've demanded people's attention, and then you shove crap that even you didn't spend time reading in their face. Even if you're using it as an editor... you know that editors vary in quality, right? You wouldn't accept a random editor just because they're cheap or free. Prose has a lot in it, not just syntax, spelling an…

I’m reading a book that went through a competent editor that cares about spelling, semantics, style, tone and a type of depth. I can tell it’s a human editor from a certain craft school, and also that this editor has been at their job for at least a decade. I can tell the author of the book has also been at their job for a decade or longer, churning out book after book. And I can tell that because despite the impeccable grammar and prose, the book has no soul.

Wait, I phrased that wrong. The story is a mashup of commercial themes and the plot would be 3 out of 5, or maybe a 5 out of 5 for young people who haven’t yet had time to read thousands of books. But then the grammar is that of a sixty years-old person who would rather spend more time at the garden but who has excellent dominion of their craft and needs the few bucks to do groceries. Their exhaustive practice takes the whole work one notch down.

Re: Writing with LLM is not a shame

#117
post #3

I think it's fair to use AI as an editor, to get feedback about how your ideas are packaged. It's also fair to use it as a clever dictionary, to find the right expressions, or to use correct grammar and spelling. (This post could really use a round of corrections.) But in the end, the message and the reasoning should be yours, and any facts that come from the LLM should be verified. Expecting people to read unverifie…

My natural reaction when I detect a writing of AI is now turning away. We have too much to read and too little time to waste on mimicry and not really what people thought or believed.

Re: Writing with LLM is not a shame

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post #14
post #3

I think it's fair to use AI as an editor, to get feedback about how your ideas are packaged. It's also fair to use it as a clever dictionary, to find the right expressions, or to use correct grammar and spelling. (This post could really use a round of corrections.) But in the end, the message and the reasoning should be yours, and any facts that come from the LLM should be verified. Expecting people to read unverifie…

> message and the reasoning should be yours, I think we havent realized yet that most of us don't really have original thoughts. Even in creative industries the amount of plagiarism (or so called inspiration) is at all times high (and that's before LLMs were available).

If you don’t have original thoughts and your response is not even your (but of a machine), why should anyone care about it? And if humans don’t produce their own thoughts and feelings anymore but merely a half effort of a probabilistic parrot, where should it end and what should all this mean? Besides the collapse of all AI, I’m pretty sure our society will collapse as well.

Re: Writing with LLM is not a shame

#119
post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a great point! Large Language Models (LLMs), like GPT-4, offer numerous benefits for writing tasks across various domains. Here’s a breakdown of the key advantages: 1. Enhanced Productivity Faster Drafting: Quickly generate drafts for essays, reports, emails, blog posts, and more. 24/7 Availability: Instant support with no downtime or fatigue. Reduced Writer’s Block: Provides starting points and creative promp…

This is AI bullshit.

It is improved bullshit.

Re: Writing with LLM is not a shame

#120
Some people you work with are very passionate about their craft and can detect if you've given them auto-generated text. And they will ask questions about it. You should be ready to answer all the LLM decisions in detail. It is not simply what you do with LLMs. It is really about who you have to share with.
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