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The forgotten meaning of "jerk"

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Re: The forgotten meaning of "jerk"

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the British slang version of the word "cheers" is a very good example of this. I can tell you for absolute certain that the most people use the word "cheers" to mean "thanks", but if you go online and look up the definition, you will be told it also means goodbye, which it really doesn't, but I think this arises from the fact that it's a bit more relaxed form of thanks, so people frequently say it as thank you at the…

Fucking hell, there's no way. The goodbye notion sounded outlandish to me, but could it be the same as OP? https://www.reddit.com/r/AskUK/comments/17tzcl5/comment/k915... says > I certainly use it as a goodbye - typically after meeting someone in the street and stopping to chat, but also generally. Also as an informal signoff for email and saying goodbye over telephone. > > 64M British, brought up in London. Now, I'm…

I've absolutely heard it used that way, in 1990s West Midlands England.

Person seeing me walk out the door: "Cheers! See you tomorrow!".

Re: The forgotten meaning of "jerk"

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I wonder if it used to be that people largely weren’t on the same page, and didn’t know it. It’s not like people consult dictionaries to learn what slang means, or even usually ask somebody, and the definitions are related enough that responses usually don’t distinguish them. I’ve noticed it’s not uncommon online that a post’s likes are split between opposing interpretations, like agreeing with its politics vs seeing…

Reminds me of the word nice. https://www.dictionary.com/e/nice-guys/

In Chaucerian times (1390s), it meant "foolish or naive".

"I nam not nyce." = "Don't take me for a simpleton."

Re: The forgotten meaning of "jerk"

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post #36

I wonder if it used to be that people largely weren’t on the same page, and didn’t know it. It’s not like people consult dictionaries to learn what slang means, or even usually ask somebody, and the definitions are related enough that responses usually don’t distinguish them. I’ve noticed it’s not uncommon online that a post’s likes are split between opposing interpretations, like agreeing with its politics vs seeing…

the British slang version of the word "cheers" is a very good example of this. I can tell you for absolute certain that the most people use the word "cheers" to mean "thanks", but if you go online and look up the definition, you will be told it also means goodbye, which it really doesn't, but I think this arises from the fact that it's a bit more relaxed form of thanks, so people frequently say it as thank you at the…

People who tell you that it also means "goodbye" are correct. It is an alternate form of "cheerio". It's not in popular use now, but it's recorded with this sense in mid-20th-century dictionaries. Indeed, one 21st century Partridge's records "cheers" meaning "goodbye" (1960s) as pre-dating "cheers" meaning "thank you" (1970s).

Re: The forgotten meaning of "jerk"

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I like to use the example of being a passenger in a car. • Position is where you are at any moment. If you're not moving, your position doesn't change. • Velocity is how quickly your position changes. If you are doing 30 MPH on a perfectly straight road with no stops and starts, you may not even notice you're moving until you look out the window. • Acceleration is how quickly your velocity changes. It's the force tha…

The next level i.e., rate of change of Jerk is called Jounce. However, I'm afraid I don't know how that would be described in car passenger's terms in your example.

Cars have "jounce dampers", also known as bump stops.

Re: The forgotten meaning of "jerk"

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Interesting. I'm thirty-something and I do seem to remember my grandparents using "jerk" to mean "idiot", but for my entire life I've always thought of it as a kid-friendly way to say "asshole". It always confused me when my grandparents would call someone who was perfectly nice a "jerk", and it wasn't until I watched the Steve Martin movie four or five years ago that I understood why.

I've only really heard women use the term jerk, ascribed to a man.

I always found it notable because it seemed to be ascribed to behavior of that special and peculiar class where The behavior benefits the man over the concerns of the woman, with an undercurrent that the women will tolerate it because the man is of a high reproductive value.

Often to me the behavior rises to what I would think would be despicable, that is something that should result in social rejection.

I'm hoping to not unleash an incel argument here.

Re: The forgotten meaning of "jerk"

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Unless you are in Poland; then you need to keep the Poles in the right-hand plane or it will be unstable.

I thought the Poles needed to be either all on the left-hand plane, or within the unit disk, for stability? (I haven't had my coffee yet, so maybe I'm remembering wrong). Either way, I loved the joke. Thank you!

You are right, I wrote that before having my coffee...

Re: The forgotten meaning of "jerk"

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It's also still used as a name in Israel, I think.

I worked with a Nimrod in San Francisco. He was more of a doofus, but very affiable.

I remember somebody showing up late for Usenix because "some doofus did a newfs" that he had to take care of.

Re: The forgotten meaning of "jerk"

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post #47

I wonder if it used to be that people largely weren’t on the same page, and didn’t know it. It’s not like people consult dictionaries to learn what slang means, or even usually ask somebody, and the definitions are related enough that responses usually don’t distinguish them. I’ve noticed it’s not uncommon online that a post’s likes are split between opposing interpretations, like agreeing with its politics vs seeing…

The article specifically addresses this with the fascinating quote from Dave Berry where he reports that the definition of the word unknowingly changed in his head over the last few decades: > “I always thought jerk meant asshole. At least I thought I always thought that, although the quotes you cite seem to suggest otherwise. So to answer your question: I have no idea. You may be right!”

The important difference between "jerk" and "asshole" is that "asshole" goes through glass. If you're driving around, then somebody cuts you off, and you mouth "jerk" at them through the windshield, they will smile at you and and wave. While "asshole" will be totally and universally unambiguously understood.

Re: The forgotten meaning of "jerk"

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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41478088

DonHopkins 11 months ago | parent | context | favorite | on: The PERQ Computer

The predecessor to the "Blit" at Bell Labs was originally named the "Jerq" as a rude play on "Perq" borrowed by permission from Lucasfilm, and the slogan was "A Jerq at Every Desk".

PERQ workstation:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PERQ

Blit (computer terminal):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blit_(computer_terminal)

>The folk etymology for the Blit name is that it stands for Bell Labs Intelligent Terminal, and its creators have also joked that it actually stood for Bacon, Lettuce, and Interactive Tomato. However, Rob Pike's paper on the Blit explains that it was named after the second syllable of bit blit, a common name for the bit-block transfer operation that is fundamental to the terminal's graphics.[2] Its original nickname was Jerq, inspired by a joke used during a demo of a Three Rivers' PERQ graphic workstation and used with permission.

https://inbox.vuxu.org/tuhs/CAKzdPgz37wwYfmHJ_7kZx_T=-zwNJ50...

  From: Rob Pike 
  To: Norman Wilson 
  Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society 
  Subject: Re: [TUHS] Blit source
  Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2019 11:26:47 +1100 [thread overview]
  Message-ID:  (raw)
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  Your naming isn't right, although the story otherwise is accurate.

  The Jerq was the original name for the 68K machines hand-made by Bart. The
  name, originally coined for a fun demo of the Three Rivers Perq by folks at
  Lucasfilm, was borrowed with permission by us but was considered unsuitable
  by Sam Morgan as we reached out to make some industrially, by a company
  (something Atlantic) on Long Island. So "Blit" was coined. The Blit name
  later stuck unofficially to the DMD-5620, which was made by Teletype and,
  after some upheavals, had a Western Electric BellMac 32000 CPU.

  If 5620s were called Jerqs, it was an accident. All the software with that
  name would be for the original, Locanthi-built and -designed 68K machines.

  The sequence is thus Jerq, Blit, DMD-5620. DMD stood for dot-mapped rather
  than bit-mapped, but I never understood why. It seemed a category error to
  me.

  -rob
https://inbox.vuxu.org/tuhs/CAKzdPgxreqfTy+55qc3-Yx5zZPVVwOW...

  The original name was Jerq, which was first the name given by friends at
  Lucasfilm to the Three Rivers PERQ workstations they had, for which the
  Pascal-written software and operating system were unsatisfactory. Bart
  Locanthi and I (with Greg Chesson and Dave Ditzel?) visited Lucasfilm in
  1981 and we saw all the potential there with none of the realization. My
  personal aha was that, as on the Alto, only one thing could be running at a
  time and that was a profound limitation. When we began to design our answer
  to these problems a few weeks later, we called Lucasfilm to ask if they
  minded us borrowing their excellent rude name, and they readily agreed.

  Our slogan: A jerq at every desk.
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