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Perplexity Makes Longshot $34.5B Offer for Chrome

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Re: Perplexity Makes Longshot $34.5B Offer for Chrome

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Really? I’ve found it to be a fantastic product, and a part of my daily use. It’s reduced my legacy search engine usage significantly. Is there a better product? ChatGPT with web search enabled? I guess Google’s AI is probably good, I just haven’t used Google in a while as I switched to DuckDuckGo.

I second this. Perplexity is the only AI I actually pay for. It absolutely excels at the kind of deep search into narrow domains where expertise is concentrated in forums and specialist sites. Things like mechanical work on obscure classic vehicles, vacuum tube electronics, company tax arcana. It's also very very good at those questions you sometimes wake up with, where something happened in the news six months ago a…

> As always with any LLM you should double-check its final, specific answers. It does occasionally hallucinate when information simply isn't available.

It also sometimes completely botches it when information is available. For example a while back someone cited Musk only scoring 730 on the math SAT as evidence that there is something from with the test.

I looked up Musk's age to figure out about when he would have taken the SAT then asked Perplexity what percentile a 760 would have been then. It gave me an answer that as far as I can tell was right (~90th).

I then wondered what my percentile was, so asked it what percentile 790 would have been when I took it. It told me it would have been 17.something, where that something had 5 digits.

That was obviously completely wrong because (1) there is no possible way it could have data that would justify giving an answer with 5 digits after the decimal point, and (2) the maximum possible score was 800 and scores were a multiple of 10, so for 790 to have been 17th percentile would mean that 83% of people who took the test scored a perfect 800.

I told it that this was clearly absurd.

It responded that I was completely right and said it was going to try again. On the retry it gave a reasonable answer that I knew from what I remembered was in the right ballpark and not given to ridiculous accuracy.

Re: Perplexity Makes Longshot $34.5B Offer for Chrome

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I still don't understand how forcing Google to sell Chrome achieves any of the regulator's goals. The only piece that matters is how Google controls both ends of the advertising market. I wouldn't be surprised if Google is ushering this penalty because its a public slap on the wrist that they can go home laughing about.

Why buy Chrome anyway? Put that $34.5 billion into a team that forks and develops Chromium. Ban Google from developing browsers as well as paying for search preference in other browsers.

Re: Perplexity Makes Longshot $34.5B Offer for Chrome

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Unless Google is banned from providing a browser entirely, they'll just re-fork Webkit and release another browser, and it will very quickly replace Chrome usage. Especially on Android - which is the most used OS in the world. It seems strange to ban Google from offering a Search Engine, when all the other big tech companies can get into any field just fine, but the legal system is primarily a weapon for corruption t…

Google pretty clearly has a monopoly on search though, and their ownership of Android + the #1 web browser in the world maintains this. I don't think a new fork of Webkit would change this argument.

Had. Google search doesn't find things any more.

Re: Perplexity Makes Longshot $34.5B Offer for Chrome

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> Especially on Android - which is the most used OS in the world. In the EU, they're forced to ask you which browser and which search engine you want. > It seems strange to ban Google from offering a Search Engine, when all the other big tech companies can get into any field just fine, but the legal system is primarily a weapon for corruption these days, so who knows. Letting one instance of blatant anti competitive…

And in the EU, there's little difference in Chrome & Google market share on Android. It's almost as if people actually like Google's products.

You can use multiple browsers. Even my non-technical SO does, with no input from me.

Re: Perplexity Makes Longshot $34.5B Offer for Chrome

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And in the EU, there's little difference in Chrome & Google market share on Android. It's almost as if people actually like Google's products.

You can use multiple browsers. Even my non-technical SO does, with no input from me.

I have to use multiple web browsers, and what doesn't work on Firefox works on Chrome or Edge, and vice versa.

Re: Perplexity Makes Longshot $34.5B Offer for Chrome

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These marketing stunts from Perplexity made me stop using their product. For me, it's an indicator that they don't believe in their product, so there's no reason for me to do it either.

My reason is much more petty, but their refusal to allow me to sign-in with either a password+2fa or passkey and instead force me to open my email for a magic link has pushed me away.

Don't make using your product annoying.

Re: Perplexity Makes Longshot $34.5B Offer for Chrome

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Really? I’ve found it to be a fantastic product, and a part of my daily use. It’s reduced my legacy search engine usage significantly. Is there a better product? ChatGPT with web search enabled? I guess Google’s AI is probably good, I just haven’t used Google in a while as I switched to DuckDuckGo.

I second this. Perplexity is the only AI I actually pay for. It absolutely excels at the kind of deep search into narrow domains where expertise is concentrated in forums and specialist sites. Things like mechanical work on obscure classic vehicles, vacuum tube electronics, company tax arcana. It's also very very good at those questions you sometimes wake up with, where something happened in the news six months ago a…

The SEO-optimized blog spam is the worst.

Each page has paragraphs and paragraphs of pure filler. Let the AI crawlers read them so I don’t have to.

Re: Perplexity Makes Longshot $34.5B Offer for Chrome

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These marketing stunts from Perplexity made me stop using their product. For me, it's an indicator that they don't believe in their product, so there's no reason for me to do it either.

My reason is much more petty, but their refusal to allow me to sign-in with either a password+2fa or passkey and instead force me to open my email for a magic link has pushed me away. Don't make using your product annoying.

Magic links are an order of magnitude safer than passwords, and the majority of regular users will never set up 2FA, so this raises the base safety for all

Re: Perplexity Makes Longshot $34.5B Offer for Chrome

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Anyone here use perplexity? I’ve tried numerous times, but once you get over the flashy UI, it feels like a lot of fluff.

Even during ChatGPT peak, when HN was buzzing with every other post being how ChatGPT/other LLM product replaced Google for them, I could not honestly switch, or meaningfully reduce my Google usage. Until Perplexity. It was the AI product that actually reduced my Google usage. Even with AI mode directly built into Google homepage now, Perplexity is still better. It has basically zero hallucination, each para/entry ba…

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Re: Perplexity Makes Longshot $34.5B Offer for Chrome

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It sounds like you need to be using the research function, which takes ~3 minutes but does a much more in depth search to find more relevant data.

3 minutes is too long for exploratory searches, where I'm not sure what I'm even looking for. And 3 minutes feels too short for deep research which I'm expected to trust some complex result which I either don't know enough about myself (that's why I'm searching for it) or know enough about to the point that AI probably can't do something that I already couldn't within a couple minutes. I think the sweet spot for AI r…

Hm, I'd think, AI aside, that if 3 minutes is too long for an exploratory research, that's not going to be good quality exploratory research...
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