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Re: I gave the AI arms and legs then it rejected me

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Hey, I'm the author of the blog post. Thank you for submitting this. If you have any questions feel free to ask and please let me know how the writing was. It's one of my first posts so I'd like to improve

Do you think that making your product AGPL would being you more money/recognition/jobs for your effort?

I don't know. I have no comparison but it is common for crates to be released under MIT. I took over the maintainership from the original author so the license was already there. I rewrote pretty much everything so I guess I could try changing the license now but that's not something I wanna think about.

I do the work because I see it as payback for all the great open source software I use all the time.

Re: I gave the AI arms and legs then it rejected me

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post #59

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Homebrew is “just” a package manager, not the core of part of Google. They could rip it out overnight and won’t even notice it. And Google gave him a fair shot. This guy got rejected by some automated system without even interview.

So, was he rejected by an automated system or did he go thru seven interviews, as other commenters say?

GP is talking about two different people.

"Him" is the creator of Homebrew. Seven interviews at Google.

"This guy" is the creator of enigo (discussed in this thread). Automatic rejection by Anthropic.

(Edit: upon page reload i saw the quicker answer.)

Re: I gave the AI arms and legs then it rejected me

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Hey mate, I would just like to say that I wish they at least find it in their hearts to reward you for the value you have provided to them. Knowing cut throat american corps, I'm afraid the chances are nil. Even if a good amount for you is peanuts to them. Which is why my position is GPL > MIT..

They could literally give him 100k, 1mil or even 10mil which would still be a rounding error in their books.

Are they even profitable?

Re: I gave the AI arms and legs then it rejected me

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yeah, as this is so often the case, many times good, relevant applications are missed. I hope that this Hacker News post will get to one of the key people at Anthropic and they change their minds.

At my firms I saw this happen often. HR would review, or a junior engineer and pass on very good candidates. It wasn't until I set up a review system with A-class engineers that we started to catch the best people. A-class engineers recognize themselves far better than anyone else. But they prefer to build than review resumes. I ended up building my own head hunting firm specifically to address the whole pipeline. Th…

I think the issue is that some applications are not even reviewed. HRs can also learn the expertise of identifying strong candidates if they build up the experience and frequently talk with engineers about pros and cons of resumes.

Re: I gave the AI arms and legs then it rejected me

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Which is not something that happened, even according to Max Howell himself: https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-logic-behind-Google-rejectin... > I feel bad about my tweet, I don’t feel it was fair, and it fed the current era of outragism-driven-reading that is the modern Internet, and thus went viral, and for that I am truly sorry.

it kind of happened, he went through seven interviews. from the same post: > But ultimately, should Google have hired me? Yes, absolutely yes. I am often a dick, I am often difficult, I often don’t know computer science, but. BUT. I make really good things, maybe they aren't perfect, but people really like them. Surely, surely Google could have used that.

> I am often a dick

It make things really nice and easy when someone tells me enough about themselves in just a few words to make me not want to work with them.

Maybe that's why he didn't get hired? His dickishness came through in the interviews?

Re: I gave the AI arms and legs then it rejected me

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There is some dirty secret i learned in my time as a eng. manager: Working in open source / Being the maintainer of a popular library / Blogging about software: All this things won't give you necessarily a competitive edge but can work against you. It's counterintuitive but sometimes teams are looking for a more low-profile hire.

I agree with the other comments on this thread, but I have a question of my own, why not work as consultant at that point and not as team member?

No equity.

Re: I gave the AI arms and legs then it rejected me

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post #38

It's inherently risky to blog about your professional relationships under your own name and this is a weirdly small hill to die on.

He was very courteous, no deaths on a hill to be found

Publishing anything about it, regardless of content, is already a hill.

I like that people blog about these experiences and enjoy the insights, but I think it's never good for the authors..

Re: I gave the AI arms and legs then it rejected me

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post #47

There is some dirty secret i learned in my time as a eng. manager: Working in open source / Being the maintainer of a popular library / Blogging about software: All this things won't give you necessarily a competitive edge but can work against you. It's counterintuitive but sometimes teams are looking for a more low-profile hire.

How so? Care to elaborate? I get that bloggers/educators can sometimes be not the best fit for IC roles but doing open source seems like a huge advantage.

> Care to elaborate?

When parent poster says things like “low profile” it should be interpreted as cheap and doesn’t know their worth. Assume all hiring managers want the least qualified and cheapest possible employee that can still get the job done.

Not always true, but true enough to be useful and more true than hiring managers admit to themselves. I’ve been a senior involved with hiring for years because while I full don’t want to manage, I also never trust my manager to hire well. They have multiple mutually exclusive narratives they tell themselves about how they hire/manage. Not all of them are true, and sometimes not any are.

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