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Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down

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Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down

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Post by wongarsu »

delta_p_delta_x wrote: post #73
p_ing wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no meaningful attention, here. Until it is on the US Gov't radar, this 'attention' is just a collection of upset redditors furiously posting forum messages which will fissile out in a few months, at most. Besides, it's not like you can boycott Mastercard or VISA.

> it's not like you can boycott Mastercard or VISA In many countries, if you pay locally, you absolutely can. China's UnionPay, India's UPI, PayNow in Singapore, PromptPay in Thailand, PayPal, Cash App, and more.

And places like Steam take a lot of payment options. Most online services that wanted to have wide international appeal in the 90s and 2000s had to simply because credit cards were rare in many places, and a lot of those services still have a wide array of options

Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down

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Post by Waterluvian »

perihelions wrote: post #84
p_ing wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no meaningful attention, here. Until it is on the US Gov't radar, this 'attention' is just a collection of upset redditors furiously posting forum messages which will fissile out in a few months, at most. Besides, it's not like you can boycott Mastercard or VISA.

> "which will fissile out in a few months" A tangential nitpick: it's fizzle out , from a Middle English etymology meaning "to fart"; not to fission ( fissile being an adjectival form), from Latin "to split". https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fizzle#Etymology ( "Attested in English since 1525-35. From earlier fysel (“to fart”). Related to fīsa (“to fart”). Compare with Swedish fisa (“to fart (silently)”). See also feist…

I’ve never heard fissile out but I love it for describing a problem that will go away once the full consequences have already been felt.

Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down

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Post by Freak_NL »

nottorp wrote: post #102

By the way: https://www.amazon.com/Streetcar-Named-Desire-Blu-ray/dp/B07... Why is Mastercard processing money for this movie that contains a rape scene?

It's not targetted by pressure groups at the moment. MasterCard isn't acting out of its own moral convictions here, so don't expect these rules to be enforced wherever they might apply.

Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down

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Post by bboygravity »

ginko wrote: post #78
p_ing wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no meaningful attention, here. Until it is on the US Gov't radar, this 'attention' is just a collection of upset redditors furiously posting forum messages which will fissile out in a few months, at most. Besides, it's not like you can boycott Mastercard or VISA.

Honestly I hope this comes under the EU's radar.

Oh the EU will happily pass new laws to screen your entire life when you'd like to buy a game (and to record and store everything you talk about with fellow gamers in case you say something that goes against EU policies).

EU will even arrange a special new bank account for ya outside of Visa Mastercard called CBDC.

No problem. EU is here for ya! /s

Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down

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Post by p_ing »

wongarsu wrote: post #111
delta_p_delta_x wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it's not like you can boycott Mastercard or VISA In many countries, if you pay locally, you absolutely can. China's UnionPay, India's UPI, PayNow in Singapore, PromptPay in Thailand, PayPal, Cash App, and more.

And places like Steam take a lot of payment options. Most online services that wanted to have wide international appeal in the 90s and 2000s had to simply because credit cards were rare in many places, and a lot of those services still have a wide array of options

Maybe they could come out with a client named "Steamy" where they post all the nudie games and take all forms of shady, underground, scandalous payment methods, like btc and doge.

Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down

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Post by tau255 »

p_ing wrote: post #92
delta_p_delta_x wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it's not like you can boycott Mastercard or VISA In many countries, if you pay locally, you absolutely can. China's UnionPay, India's UPI, PayNow in Singapore, PromptPay in Thailand, PayPal, Cash App, and more.

That's great to hear, but this is a US-centric complaint discussing US-centric companies.

It is not really US-centric. VISA and Mastercard actions resulted in delisting content in all the markets globally. Steam and Itch.io pulled games from all regions, Manga Library Z was hit in Japan, Patreon and Stripe are pressured globally. Suggesting to boycott VISA and Mastercard if you have an alternative is valid.

Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down

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Post by reginald78 »

Hamuko wrote: post #46
ddtaylor wrote: post #33

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I mean they kind of do. Most of the time I would hand wave away any company offering gift cards or credits, but Steam has created an economy / structure that I think warrants mentioning here. I have sold a few items on Steam because I don't care about cosmetics in games. I'm also lazy and because of that "sat" on items for a while that appreciated. I mention this because Steam credit is very fungible: it can be easil…

I know that physical Steam gift cards exist but I've quite frankly never seen them anywhere. Nintendo/PlayStation/Xbox cards are pretty ubiquitous though. I recently tried getting a Steam one from a grocery store but they only had the console ones.

I've definitely seen them. A quick search shows them available at BestBuy and Walmart at least.

Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down

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Post by wiseowise »

ascagnel_ wrote: post #95
rs186 wrote: post #64

Dumb question: what if Steam only takes cash or crypto payment for these games, and leave them on the market? Cash is loaded from debit card and can be used for buying any games, while crypto apparently always works for everything. Would they still be on the hook?

Debit cards still go through MasterCard and/or Visa. They could take crypto, but crypto is far too volatile for the types of transactions Valve wants to be handling.

What they mean is that you top up your Steam credit and rest is between you and Steam.

Re: Mastercard deflects blame for NSFW games being taken down

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Post by littlecranky67 »

I really hope Steam will start to accept Bitcoin (via Lightning possibly) over this. Due to its decentralization, it is censorship free by default. And if Steam accepts Bitcoin, that would be a massive boost for the liquidity aspect of BTC: You could basically sell your BTC to anyone who wants to make a Steam purchase, making it similarly fungible as Amazon gift vouchers.
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