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AWS deleted my 10-year account and all data without warning

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Re: AWS deleted my 10-year account and all data without warning

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Post by Ancapistani »

foundry27 wrote: post #80
ageitgey wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't get an AI vibe from this post. Grammar checkers add em dashes, too. If anything, an AI tool would have written a shorter, less rambling post.

It’s easy to be fooled, myself included it seems :) For context, here’s a handful of the ChatGPT cues I see. - “wasn’t just my backup—it was my clean room for open‑source development” - “wasn’t standard AWS incompetence; this was something else entirely” - “you’re not being targeted; you’re being algorithmically categorized” - “isn’t a system failure; the architecture and promises are sound” - “This isn’t just about…

The author explicitly states that their communication style is frequently recognized as AI.

I use both em-dashes and semicolons extensively in my own writing.

Even if the article _were_ written by or in coordination with ChatGPT... why does it matter? The content is either honest or dishonest.

Re: AWS deleted my 10-year account and all data without warning

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Post by tguvot »

dmead wrote: post #107
tguvot wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i can't login. i can change password but no login for me.

Probably because I was a mod of a moderately popular local sub. I started losing my shit at people posting anti trans hysteria. Part of me wants to send spez a bill for 14 years of deleting dick pics and local kkk posting. And then there was COVID...

you should have collected all those dicks in bag and mailed them to spez

Re: AWS deleted my 10-year account and all data without warning

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Post by bufferoverflow »

wewewedxfgdf wrote: post #17
floating-io wrote: post #12

My fear of this sort of thing happening is why I don't use github or gitlab.com for primary hosting of my source code; only mirrors. I do primary source control in house, and keep backups on top of that. It's also why nothing in my AWS account is "canonical storage". If I need, say, a database in AWS, it is live-mirrored to somewhere within my control, on hardware I own, even if that thing never sees any production t…

I once said to the CTO of the company I worked for "do we back up our source code"? He said, "no, it's on github". I said no more.

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Re: AWS deleted my 10-year account and all data without warning

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Post by floating-io »

cnst wrote: post #104
floating-io wrote: post #12

My fear of this sort of thing happening is why I don't use github or gitlab.com for primary hosting of my source code; only mirrors. I do primary source control in house, and keep backups on top of that. It's also why nothing in my AWS account is "canonical storage". If I need, say, a database in AWS, it is live-mirrored to somewhere within my control, on hardware I own, even if that thing never sees any production t…

How do you distinguish a mirror from not a mirror on GitHub? I often have my git configured to push to multiple upstreams, this means that basically all of your mirrors can be primaries. This is a really good part about GitHub. Every copy is effectively a mirror, too, and it's cryptographically verified as well, so, you don't have to worry about the mirror going rogue without anyone noticing.

I use GitLab locally and push only to that. GitLab itself is configured to mirror outbound to the public side of things.

In a collaborative scenario, doing it that way makes sure everything is always properly synchronized. Some individual's lacking config can't break things.

Re: AWS deleted my 10-year account and all data without warning

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Post by seuros »

huksley wrote: post #7

If you are given only 5 days to comply with some request, that's how complicated your infra at AWS should be - so you can migrate to another provider in that time. Just use EC2 and basic primitives which are easy to migrate (ie S3, SES)

Hi, The infrastructure was not complex at at all, i can transfer it in 1 day.

I was hospitalized, in another city, with all the computer at home, and locked behind 2FA.

They send me is on notice on Thursday, by Monday evening, all access was revoked.

For weeks i asked for a readonly access to my data, then they could take anytime they want to verify, they refused.

And he more i ask about my data, they more they avoid to speak about it.

Think about it , you could be sick, on a trip, having jetlag, in some festival, getting married... by the time you are back online, the delay was gone.

Re: AWS deleted my 10-year account and all data without warning

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Post by seuros »

foundry27 wrote: post #61

Editorial comment: It’s a bit weird to see AI-written (at least partially; you can see the usual em-dashes, it’s-not-X-it’s-Y) blog posts like this detract from an author’s true writing style, which in this case I found significantly more pleasant to read. Read his first ever post, and compare it to this one and many of the other recent posts: https://www.seuros.com/blog/noflylist-how-noflylist-got-clea... I’m not mu…

Not AI-generated. Not everyone is born writing flawless English.

If it sounds like an LLM, maybe it is because people like me had to learn how to write clearly from LLMs because English is not our first language.

I could’ve written in my native tongue, but then someone else will have complained that not how english is structured.

Also, the story is real. Just because it is well-structured doesn't mean it's fiction. Yes, i used AI to resort it, but i can assure you that no AI will generate the Piers Morgan reference.

Re: AWS deleted my 10-year account and all data without warning

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Post by pintxo »

OutOfHere wrote: post #57
wewewedxfgdf wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I once said to the CTO of the company I worked for "do we back up our source code"? He said, "no, it's on github". I said no more.

I don't understand how the VC financiers got so rich while being so stupid as to hire such stupid people at the executive level, e.g. your CTO.

If only 10 out of 100 of your investments make it, does it matter if one of the 90 failed because of lacking backups? Their risk strategy is diversification of investments. Not making each investment itself bulletproof.

Re: AWS deleted my 10-year account and all data without warning

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Post by seuros »

spiralcoaster wrote: post #37

The amount of self-aggrandizing and lack of self awareness tells me this author is doing to do all of this again. This post could be summed up with "I should have had backups. Lesson learned", but instead they deflect to whining about how their local desktop is a mess and they NEED to store everything remotely to stay organized. They're going to dazzle you with all of their hardened bunker this, and multiple escape r…

I did have backups. Multi-region. Redundant. I followed AWS’s own best practices to the letter.

The only failure I didn’t plan for? AWS becoming the failure.

The provider nuking everything in violation of their own retention policies. That’s not a backup problem, that is a provider trust problem.

The reason i did not kept a local copy, was that i formatted my computer after a hardware failure, after the nurse dropped the laptop in the hospital i was on. Since i have a AWS backup, i just started with a fresh OS while waiting to get discharged to return home and redownload everything.

When i returned 6 days days later, the backup was gone.

Re: AWS deleted my 10-year account and all data without warning

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Post by seuros »

mcv wrote: post #109
spiralcoaster wrote: post #37

The amount of self-aggrandizing and lack of self awareness tells me this author is doing to do all of this again. This post could be summed up with "I should have had backups. Lesson learned", but instead they deflect to whining about how their local desktop is a mess and they NEED to store everything remotely to stay organized. They're going to dazzle you with all of their hardened bunker this, and multiple escape r…

Yeah, at some point the article says: > I’d done everything right. Vault encryption keys stored separately from my main infrastructure. Defense in depth. Zero trust architecture. The works. Did you? Is putting all your eggs in one basket "defense in depth"? Is total trust in AWS "zero trust architecture"? I'm not defending AWS here; they fully deserve all the fallout they can get from this, and I do feel for the dev…

I dont disagree with your broader point—centralizing everything in one provider is a systemic risk.

The architecture was built assuming infrastructure within AWS might fail. What I didn’t plan for was the provider itself turning hostile, skipping their own retention policy, and treating verification as a deletion trigger.

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