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Users claim Discord's age verification can be tricked with video game characters

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Re: Users claim Discord's age verification can be tricked with video game characters

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Several articles say that Ofcom has said platforms must not host, share, or permit content encouraging the use of VPNs to bypass age checks, adding that parents should be aware of how VPNs can be used to bypass the Act.

Yeah the funniest thing is that Ofcom said:

> Concerned parents, it said, should block or control VPN usage.

Hilarious. I wonder if they realised...

Re: Users claim Discord's age verification can be tricked with video game characters

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That annoys me as the VPN isn't necessarily bypassing the age check, but instead is allowing the person to pretend that they don't live in a country with stupid laws. I mean, Ofcom might as well warn parents about cheap holiday websites that encourage people to bypass the age checks by flying to a sane country.

Yes? I expect that "take a weekend to France to bypass age verification" and "subscribe to NordVPN to bypass age verification" are both legal while "take a weekend to France to see the Eiffel tower" and "use NordVPN to increase your security" are both legal. Did you never wonder why VPN ads don't really list any actual use cases, yet they're wildly popular? If you know what you need it for, the ad doesn't have to tel…

VPN ads talk about bypassing streaming region locks all the time.

Re: Users claim Discord's age verification can be tricked with video game characters

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On-device models are excellent for privacy, but they are fundamentally broken from a security perspective. Preventing people from spoofing the results would involve locking them out of their own devices, via DRM.

Hardware attestation would be enough to clamp down on almost anything, ensuring the hardware and the os guarantee the outcome is not manipulated. Not the broken anti-competitive Google play store integrity (which is passing for any handset not patched for the last 8 years but with Google buttplug in it, effectively nullifying assurances from the attestation), but a proper hw attestation.

You just described DRM

Re: Users claim Discord's age verification can be tricked with video game characters

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The US in particular doesn't have a national identity system in the first place because the Republican party has opposed the concept for a long timr for various reasons both ideological ("mark of the beast" claims are less of a thing these days but have been made in the past) and political (having a patchwork of systems makes voter suppression and stochastic disenfranchisement of undesireables easier). Without that,…

It's worth being careful with broad characterizations like this. Attributing complex policy opposition to fringe beliefs or bad faith motives oversimplifies the issue and shuts down good faith discussion. Whatever one’s views, that kind of framing isn’t helpful.

But in this case it's absolutely true -- I've yet to see any other reason for Republicans to be opposed to national IDs. Have you?

Re: Users claim Discord's age verification can be tricked with video game characters

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> government passes law that requires companies to age verify users > said government provides no way to actually verify a human's age > hilarity ensues

The Apple and Google wallet apps have ways to add your id, but the web apis aren’t widely available yet.

Here’s Google’s doc:

https://developers.google.com/wallet/identity/verify/accepti...

Looks like it will support zero knowledge proofs?

Re: Users claim Discord's age verification can be tricked with video game characters

#116

Ironic that this comes at a time when AI-generated pictures are getting better and better. Personally, I will never use Discord and they just gave me another reason not to.

Could me MUCH, MUCH worse, they could use Epic's service like Bluesky does.

This Epic, which famously had to pay half of billion USD settlement when they got caught for law breaking (collecting personal data without consent. Clearly against the law, because they knew they're collecting details of children) : https://www.exterro.com/resources/blog/data-privacy-alert-ft...

Re: Users claim Discord's age verification can be tricked with video game characters

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They will also know your habits and kinks etc.

It can be done in a way that prevents that. Briefly, the government can give you a digital copy of your driver's license or passport or whatever that can be bound to a hardware security key you have. Most modern smartphones have a suitable security key built. To verify your age for a site a zero-knowledge proof (ZKP) can be constructed for the site to prove that you have that document, it says your age is above the t…

> They have no idea what you use that ID for or when you use it.

Eh, at least until they require all sites to ensure all posts and pictures are signed by a valid digital ID. You know, to prevent terrorism.

Re: Users claim Discord's age verification can be tricked with video game characters

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Denmark does it by sending you to a government-owned website, which then uses two factor authentication and responds back verifying one’s identity. I don’t understand why other countries can’t do the same.

The UK doesn’t have any form of identity that can be used like this. There’s a very very vocal group of people who oppose the idea to the point that it hasn’t gained traction.

Voter ID rears its ugly head.

It's compulsory now so it's doable. Especially since voter registers are available to certain companies* regardless of the voters' consent.

*eg political parties, credit bureaus.

Re: Users claim Discord's age verification can be tricked with video game characters

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There's a lot of hype around age verification by letting AI look at the user's face. But everyone has met someone who was 28 and looked 16, or vice versa. It's not exactly uncommon. A few genes go wrong and you get some weird facial features that throws off our perception of age. Guess what? Our brains are just neural nets trained on data. So AI will fail in exactly the same way.
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