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You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Post by autoexec »

frollogaston wrote: post #76
gkbrk wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disabling JS is incredibly beneficial for browser performance, battery life, privacy/tracking protection. As an added bonus, it protects you from malware from all the vulnerabilities in Javascript engines.

It also makes a lot of basic features on websites unusable. Just an HN vote uses JS. They deliberately added a fallback to work without it too, which most websites won't do, but it still has to reload the page.

Because of my job I end up browsing the web with JS disabled by default and 90% of the time I don't need JS at all. Most of the time there are features of websites that break/don't work (menus, search, videos, ads, etc) but the actual thing I went to the website to get works just fine. In fact, pages load much faster and look much cleaner!

There are some annoying websites that can't manage to display simple text or even a basic image without JS (which is just bad web designers doing bad web design) and some instances where the content I need is obscured by something that doesn't behave without JS (like an expanding menu spewed out all over the place because JS isn't there to hide what hasn't been selected/hovered over) but in those cases it's usually just 2 clicks to solve the issue (either for just that visit or for every visit to that domain in the future as well) so it's not really a big deal. I'm currently using HN without JS and it's great.

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Post by codedokode »

neoden wrote: post #24

Sadly, I came back to using VS Code recently. There's a lot to like in Zed but imo that decision to write their own rendering framework is unfortunate, because of ridiculous problems in Linux still not resolved like poor font rendering, especially on low-DPI screens, or visible lags of UI which is being developed to be blazingly fast. So far, VS Code is faster for me.

VS Code also lags and become buggy if there are incompatible drivers and it cannot enable hardware acceleration.

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Post by echelon »

int_19h wrote: post #96
alternatex wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're not alone. The only reason I struggle to onboard to Zed is the design. They're doing an incredible job with the editor, but I have never seen a more bland design in any IDE. It's genuinely so bad that it affects my productivity in it. I'm a fan of Visual Studio and VS Code dark themes, I don't need anything special.

Isn't "bland" design precisely what you'd want from an IDE? To help you focus on the code and all that? It's been a while since I last looked at Zed, so I just started it again, and it ... looks like your average macOS app? Which to me sounds pretty much ideal.

I program mostly in Rust, so in theory Zed should be the perfect IDE for me. But I couldn't get past the design. It just put me in the wrong mind space.

As a data point for the Zed folks: JetBrains' RustRover with vim key bindings is still my go-to. It just "looks and feels" right to me.

I'm sure that they'll get there in time. They're playing the slow, careful, methodical game. Writing it in Rust was the right choice and it'll pay dividends.

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Post by yard2010 »

int_19h wrote: post #96
alternatex wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're not alone. The only reason I struggle to onboard to Zed is the design. They're doing an incredible job with the editor, but I have never seen a more bland design in any IDE. It's genuinely so bad that it affects my productivity in it. I'm a fan of Visual Studio and VS Code dark themes, I don't need anything special.

Isn't "bland" design precisely what you'd want from an IDE? To help you focus on the code and all that? It's been a while since I last looked at Zed, so I just started it again, and it ... looks like your average macOS app? Which to me sounds pretty much ideal.

In 2007 I had the best actionscript IDE that looked awesome and made the whole actionscript development magical. FlashDevelop iirc. It made a huge difference and inspired me every time.

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Post by echelon »

senbrow wrote: post #90

Total nitpick, but: Why would you name an option "disable_ai" with a default value of false instead of calling it "enable_ai" with a default value of true? Are there some mechanical semantics I'm missing here that make this beneficial? Negative booleans (ie that remove or suppress something when true) are generally a source of confusion and bugs and should be avoided like the plague in my experience.

I think AI-enabled is going to be the default for all future code development. Autocomplete is just so good, and I never want to go back.

I spent 20 years without it. That's enough for one lifetime.

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Post by jchw »

vishalmullur wrote: post #100
jchw wrote: post #58

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> I'll make a claim -- does anyone disagree (?) -- the incentives are not pointed in the right direction. Unless developers are paying directly for the functionality they want, that's misalignment. So enshittification seems probable, maybe inevitable, unless something structural changes. Exactly. AI autocomplete I just don't care about. OK, but they do offer an AI subscription service. I'm using LLMs almost not at al…

Maybe a year ago (or couple of months ago, I can’t recall) but I found out about Zed and since I was learning Rust, I wanted to contribute. But then I saw that they have a CLA. So while it won’t be easy to go closed source and not upset their users, it definitely is possible. Any contributions, no matter how important, are already covered by the CLA. I did not contribute anymore after seeing the CLA

Ah yeah, they have a CLA that forces you to give them a carte blanche copyright license to contributions and they also restrict dependencies to be ones with permissive licensing too.

Pretty obvious what's going on here. I hate seeing it happen, though.

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Post by Demiurge »

johnfn wrote: post #49

Zed seems really nice, and the usability has come a really long way in the last couple of months. That being said, I have one issue, and I hesitate to even bring it up because it seems so shallow: I hate all the themes! They all look so ugly and amateur. I know this is a really trivial thing, it's like complaining I don't like Python because it uses whitespace for indent or something, but I just can't get over it. VS…

I agree. I couldn't get over any of the existing themes, they just seem so low contrast... So I spent a bunch of hours porting then favorite theme I've been using in Sublime Text, to Zed, named iPlastic. Sublime Text has a theme back of classic TextMate themes, and it came in that pack. I have to say, the porting process was not very easy, but it was worth it. Now, I prefer Zed to ST and VSCode because of the theme, not just the UI and other features :)

Re: You can now disable all AI features in Zed

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Post by 0x457 »

AnotherGoodName wrote: post #16
ricokatayama wrote: post #14

Do you know what I like more than AI in my IDE (which I adore, by the way)? It's an IDE that respects the developer.

Yep, fwiw there's often live coding interviews done in the editor of your choice that require AI to be off. As in even if you love AI and use it a lot you should have the ability to turn it off.

I would actually start interviewing with AI as well. How well they prompt and how good they are at reviewing AI slop?
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