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Re: Valve confirms credit card companies pressured it to delist certain adult games

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Post by Ancapistani »

pazimzadeh wrote: post #83
Ancapistani wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would it be? I live in a red state in the South. I'd say about 2/3 of the women I know well enough to be confident of their politics to that degree of detail would describe themselves as both feminists and anti-abortion/pro-life. If you want to put a name to it, they're basically second-wave feminists with a few third-wave beliefs tacked on. The real lesson here is that politics are nuanced, and the US party dich…

Because "anti-abortion/pro-life" removes a right from women. Trading the rights of a developed adult for the rights of a hypothetical future person. What does ancapistanism have to do with it? Is there a non-religious reason to be against the right to choose abortion up to 24 weeks of pregnancy?

> Because "anti-abortion/pro-life" removes a right from women. Trading the rights of a developed adult for the rights of a hypothetical future person.

Their perspective is that abortion is killing a human being. Given that, it’s entirely consistent.

> What does ancapistanism have to do with it?

Nothing, other than that I was providing some context on where I’m coming from.

> Is there a non-religious reason to be against the right to choose abortion up to 24 weeks of pregnancy?

While religion is certainly a factor for a lot of these people, this question doesn’t make sense to me. Is there a non-religious reason to be against killing any person, regardless of age?

The base difference in perspective is that the other side here believes that the fetus is a human being, with all the rights that come with it.

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Post by krapp »

encom wrote: post #104
miningape wrote: post #92

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Yeah, who gets to decide whats too far? There's a similar issue with free speech - the moment you ban certain speech the door to banning your political opposition opens.

From what I can tell, only one country in the world has free speech. Actual free speech. USA.

I don't know what your definition of "actual" free speech is but there are certainly limits to free speech even in the US[0].

And those are just explicit limits. Try supporting Palestine on a college campus or mentioning women or gay people in any government funded scientific publication, or finding a book portraying pro-LGBT content in a library or a school curriculum that portrays slavery in a way that "makes white people feel victimized" in the South.

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_free_speech_exce...

Re: Valve confirms credit card companies pressured it to delist certain adult games

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Post by encom »

herbstein wrote: post #55
Symbiote wrote: post #46

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Denmark has seen a trend where their national card network (Dankort, operating at the equivalent level to Visa and Mastercard) is seeing reduced usage. They're aiming to reverse that trend. https://cphpost.dk/2025-06-28/general/new-political-agreemen... Not all European countries still have these independent networks.

Seeing reduced use partially because only a few banks support using it in Apple Pay. And Google Pay can't support it at all currently

Dane here, and I just don't see the point of using Apple or Google pay. Aside from not wanting American tech interfering in, or data harvesting, my finances, it's not any easier to use. I just touch my card to the terminal and payment happens. Some times, or if the amount is over some limit, I have to enter a pin. I cringe every time I see someone contorting their arm to pay with their watch. It's tech for the sake of tech.

Sincerely, Ted K.

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Post by 1970-01-01 »

encom wrote: post #104
miningape wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, who gets to decide whats too far? There's a similar issue with free speech - the moment you ban certain speech the door to banning your political opposition opens.

From what I can tell, only one country in the world has free speech. Actual free speech. USA.

Its dying fast. The Late Show was just cancelled because it was a massive thorn to the POTUS.

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Post by Ancapistani »

dmix wrote: post #84
pazimzadeh wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because "anti-abortion/pro-life" removes a right from women. Trading the rights of a developed adult for the rights of a hypothetical future person. What does ancapistanism have to do with it? Is there a non-religious reason to be against the right to choose abortion up to 24 weeks of pregnancy?

Well social/religious conservatives often think the child has rights even during pregnancy so it's not as simple as the mothers rights. The libertarian view tends to much more favour the parents rights to make choices for their children if I remember correctly, and obviously favour the option where the government isn't deciding for them.

Exactly.

My personal belief is that life begins at conception. As a result, I’m opposed to abortion in all cases.

… but I’m also an anarchist, and therefore believe it is emphatically not the state’s role to make these types of decisions for people.

I don’t think there is a “right answer” here in terms of policy. Some large portion of the people will see it as a violation of their rights no matter how extreme or nuanced the line is drawn.

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Post by bdangubic »

encom wrote: post #104
miningape wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, who gets to decide whats too far? There's a similar issue with free speech - the moment you ban certain speech the door to banning your political opposition opens.

From what I can tell, only one country in the world has free speech. Actual free speech. USA.

Thanks for this mate, REALLY needed this laugh on this fine end-of-grinding-workweek… Fantastic!!

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Post by FeepingCreature »

eddythompson80 wrote: post #98

Link for the petition and its signers. https://www.collectiveshout.org/open-letter-to-payment-proce... https://www.heise.de/en/news/Steam-Payment-providers-force-V...

Reverse petition where?

Re: Valve confirms credit card companies pressured it to delist certain adult games

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Post by tester457 »

guywithahat wrote: post #102
throwaway071625 wrote: post #58

The article calls out “certain adult games” which is vague. It is interesting to note that most of the delisted games were themed specifically around incest. https://bsky.app/profile/steamdb.info/post/3lu32vdlsmg27 Wondering if this will be a slippery slope towards pulling more anodyne stuff.

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The same post by steamdb is on twitter too, they are a steam game tracker and database.

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Post by FeepingCreature »

Hizonner wrote: post #89
nkrisc wrote: post #86

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And yet it is possible to make simulations extreme enough I would not opposed to banning them. There are some things that should not be normalized in society. It shouldn’t be payment processors doing it unilaterally, I’ll grant that. But I’m not (and I’m sure a great many more of a silent majority) wholly opposed to the outcome.

> There are some things that should not be normalized in society. That attitude has recently become normalized, and I find it Concerning(TM).

You should make a petition. Maybe we can exclude pro-exclusion websites from payment processors.

This is not okay, and we need to take a strong moral stance here. Some views should not be acceptable in a society.

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