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Mistral Releases Deep Research, Voice, Projects in Le Chat

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Re: Mistral Releases Deep Research, Voice, Projects in Le Chat

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Post by xuki »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #97
Brybry wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would lying really lead to more used car sales and thus cause pressure for other to attempt this kind of fraud? And wouldn't people get in trouble for fraud (or at least false advertising?) When I last bought a used car I found it in a classified newspaper ad: there was no picture. I looked at every car I considered in-person. When I found one I liked I paid for an independent pre-purchase inspection, discovered a cr…

There is a lot of fraud on Craigslist. The fraudsters are very creative. There is this fallacy, the 'Sunk Cost' fallacy, where people accept a substandard result because they feel they have already invested in the result and don't want to 'throw away' that investment. So in a place where it can take 90 minutes to go across the Bay, if you drive clear across the Bay for what you believe to be a pristine item, you may…

> This happens on EBay too. Sellers list something and it isn't as described, and fraudulent sellers will say "but it is! This buyer is trying to scam me." and EBay usually sides with the seller.

This is not my experience at all and I've used eBay since 2008. eBay is pro buyer to the point that I don't sell anything on eBay (and buy all everything on eBay if price is the same).

Re: Mistral Releases Deep Research, Voice, Projects in Le Chat

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gitremote wrote: post #103
wahnfrieden wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is HN, we are not all wage workers here For wage workers, not learning the latest productivity tools will result in job loss. By the time it is expected of your role, if you have not learned already, you won't be given the leniency to catch up on company time. There is no impactful resistance to this through individual protest, only by organizing your peers in industry

What does wage versus salary have to do with anything?

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Re: Mistral Releases Deep Research, Voice, Projects in Le Chat

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Post by Ey7NFZ3P0nzAe »

tdhz77 wrote: post #3

I’m struggling with MRF. Model Release Fatigue. It’s a syndrome of constantly context switching new large models. Claude 4, gpt, llama, Gemini 2.5, pro-mini, mistrial. I fire off the ide switch the model and think oh great this is better. I switch to something that worked before and man, this sucks now. Context switching llm, Model Release Fatigue

Using litellm and/or openrouter.ai really makes it painless

Re: Mistral Releases Deep Research, Voice, Projects in Le Chat

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Post by Ey7NFZ3P0nzAe »

maelito wrote: post #86

Can we expect Voxtral in the Futo Android keyboard ?

Probably not: FUTO uses a slightly tweaked whisper that does not pad all audios to be 30s long as the original whisper does. It's not the end of the world to retrain this on more recent versions but they have not done so when whisper v3 came out, nor whisper v3 turbo. And voxtral has way more capabilities than stt that would then be wasted in a stt only setting imho.

Re: Mistral Releases Deep Research, Voice, Projects in Le Chat

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Post by trilogic »

jug wrote: post #91
trilogic wrote: post #82

Finally EU is waking up. Proud of it. I am switching asap my Openai contract finishes to Mistral. We got to support EU, Viva La France.

Yeah honestly I'm just waiting for Mistral Large 3. They've hinted about it. It's probably going to become the new language model in Le Chat, and imminent: From the "One more thing" on the Mistral Medium 3 blog post in May: > With the launches of Mistral Small in March and Mistral Medium today, it’s no secret that we’re working on something ‘large’ over the next few weeks. With even our medium-sized model being resou…

I just hope Mistral find a really cold place (in the alps) for their servers so the GPU will not melt, cause I can foresee 500 million users in the next 2 years. Coding plans of 20/30 euro/month will attract users worldwide and raise the progress in competitivity/innovation of EU, as nr 1 in the world. Now time to invest not to be greedy. And step up the Dutch for the chip production.

Re: Mistral Releases Deep Research, Voice, Projects in Le Chat

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Post by barrell »

bangaladore wrote: post #51

If you haven't tried OpenAI's deep research feature, you are missing out. I'm not sure of any good alternatives, I've tried Google's, and I'm not impressed. There is a lot of value to say engineers doing tradeoff studies using these tools as a huge head start.

Every time I need a deep research (1-2x per month) I ask all the providers. OpenAI’s deep research has consistently performed the worst by a significant margin. If you’re just using OpenAI’s deep research, then you’re the one missing out ;-)

Re: Mistral Releases Deep Research, Voice, Projects in Le Chat

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Post by Zacharias030 »

totetsu wrote: post #105
M4v3R wrote: post #29

I think they've buried the lede with their image editing capabilities, which seem to be very good! OpenAI's model will change the whole image while editing messing up details in unrelated areas. This seems to perfectly preserve parts of the image unrelated to your query and selectively apply the edits, which is very impressive! The only downside is the output resolution (the resulting image is 1184px wide even though…

Can anyone point to a good explanation of how these multi-modal text and image models are set up architecturally.. is there like a shared embedding space? or is it lots of integrations..

Not my area of expertise, but here you go.

I don’t know how much tool use there is these days of the llm „just“ calling image generation models, with a bunch of prompt reformulation for the text-to-image model which is most likely a „steerable“ diffusion model (really nice talks by Stefano Ermon on youtube!).

Actually multimodal models usually have a vision encoder submodel that translates image patches into tokens and then the pretrained llm and vision model are jointly finetuned. I think reading the reports about gemma or kimi VL will give a good idea here.

Re: Mistral Releases Deep Research, Voice, Projects in Le Chat

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Post by dkga »

M4v3R wrote: post #29

I think they've buried the lede with their image editing capabilities, which seem to be very good! OpenAI's model will change the whole image while editing messing up details in unrelated areas. This seems to perfectly preserve parts of the image unrelated to your query and selectively apply the edits, which is very impressive! The only downside is the output resolution (the resulting image is 1184px wide even though…

That‘s very interesting, thanks for sharing!

Incidentally and veering off topic, I find it extremely annoying that to open both pictures I need to click numerous times to avoid receiving unwanted cookies (even if some are „legitimate“, implying others are not). A further nuisance is from the fact that multiple websites have the same cookies vendor pop-up, suggesting there is a „cookies-as-a-service“ vendor of some sort.

Re: Mistral Releases Deep Research, Voice, Projects in Le Chat

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Post by druskacik »

lostmsu wrote: post #84

Is Voice available on the free tier? I signed up just to try it, but all I see is the dictation mode.

It seems their "Voice mode" is just a dictation mode, not like the Voice Mode from e.g. OpenAI. Even their demo[0] just shows a dictation.

I am a bit disappointed, the headline made me think they offer a voice mode similar to OpenAI.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEP-xIIfuhs

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