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Lead pigment in turmeric is the culprit in a global poisoning mystery (2024)

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Re: Lead pigment in turmeric is the culprit in a global poisoning mystery (2024)

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I grew up in India and now live in the US. My mom recently got some ground turmeric from our own farm when she visited us. I am was stunned by how much more duller, brownish-yellow it was compared to the turmeric I buy in Indian stores in the US. Those are usually really bright yellows. Now, I am really scared that even stuff sold in California is probably lead paint tainted turmeric.

I'm curious about getting a personal XRF device for this reason. They don't look "that" expensive, I found some for $5k to $10k on Alibaba. Is it overkill? Probably yes. Am I overly paranoid about my health and would also like to generally have an XRF device? Also yes.

Re: Lead pigment in turmeric is the culprit in a global poisoning mystery (2024)

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I immediately tested the 5 year old Sadaf tumeric in my kitchen cabinet using a 3M lead testing kit I happened to have in my house. Thankfully it came out negative!

There is a much easier and reliable way to test it -> https://eatrightindia.gov.in/dart/#:~:text=Test%2014%20%3A%2...

I don't see any method for lead chromate in turmeric powder, unless I'm missing something.

Re: Lead pigment in turmeric is the culprit in a global poisoning mystery (2024)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The X-ray fluorescence tests used in the market spectacle described in the article are very cheap and easy, but they require equipment that is very expensive from the perspective of your average Bangladesh greengrocer. There are other easy and cheap tests for heavy metals that don't require such expensive equipment, but they only work if the metal ions are water-soluble, which lead chromate isn't.

It would be super cheap to pop a teaspoon in an envelope and post it to a government test lab who has an xrf gun...

Yeah, and probably in, say, Switzerland that's exactly what people would do if they had this problem. But here in Argentina, for example, a friend of mine had his house raided by the police because he revealed that the voting machines the country was planning to adopt were flawed and vulnerable to falsified election results. And in the US right now immigrants are getting arrested and deported if they show up to their court hearings to decide whether they should be deported. And you probably remember that, during the covid pandemic, the US government was prohibiting labs from telling people whether their covid tests were positive or negative. So probably this isn't a full replacement for being able to do your own tests.

Re: Lead pigment in turmeric is the culprit in a global poisoning mystery (2024)

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I'm put off by how this is framed as a detective story. Pesticides that contain heavy metals and other carcinogens are a well known issue, with India (and South Asia more generally) being the worst affected. > You'll never guess the culprit Not knowing about turmeric comes off as deeply ignorant when a billion people consume it as part of their daily diet. > They don't know that this is harmful for human health Let m…

Uh, the culprit isn't turmeric, it's lead chromate that farmers were putting on turmeric.

For most readers of English, it is not an expected fact that someone would be intentionally adding lead to food.

In the article, the turmeric related lead poisonings were due to turmeric bought at Bangladeshi markets, not processed, packaged spices bought from a grocer.

Re: Lead pigment in turmeric is the culprit in a global poisoning mystery (2024)

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I immediately tested the 5 year old Sadaf tumeric in my kitchen cabinet using a 3M lead testing kit I happened to have in my house. Thankfully it came out negative!

There is a much easier and reliable way to test it -> https://eatrightindia.gov.in/dart/#:~:text=Test%2014%20%3A%2...

Yes indeed. Here's also an instruction video for it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXWPf0HQd5U

Re: Lead pigment in turmeric is the culprit in a global poisoning mystery (2024)

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post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be super cheap to pop a teaspoon in an envelope and post it to a government test lab who has an xrf gun...

Yeah, and probably in, say, Switzerland that's exactly what people would do if they had this problem. But here in Argentina, for example, a friend of mine had his house raided by the police because he revealed that the voting machines the country was planning to adopt were flawed and vulnerable to falsified election results. And in the US right now immigrants are getting arrested and deported if they show up to their…

> the US government was prohibiting labs from telling people whether their covid tests were positive or negative.

Are you referring to unvetted experimental tests, or something else?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/09/politics/coronavirus-testing-...

Re: Lead pigment in turmeric is the culprit in a global poisoning mystery (2024)

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I'm put off by how this is framed as a detective story. Pesticides that contain heavy metals and other carcinogens are a well known issue, with India (and South Asia more generally) being the worst affected. > You'll never guess the culprit Not knowing about turmeric comes off as deeply ignorant when a billion people consume it as part of their daily diet. > They don't know that this is harmful for human health Let m…

Of course they know. But human life has very little value in Bangladesh. You’re socialized to desensitize yourself to it.

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Re: Lead pigment in turmeric is the culprit in a global poisoning mystery (2024)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a much easier and reliable way to test it -> https://eatrightindia.gov.in/dart/#:~:text=Test%2014%20%3A%2...

I don't see any method for lead chromate in turmeric powder, unless I'm missing something.

It's used for coloring, because it makes it apparently gives it the same color as good real tumeric

Re: Lead pigment in turmeric is the culprit in a global poisoning mystery (2024)

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> to introduce a level of accountability... without the burden of regulation Why? What's wrong with regulation? The whole point of regulation is safety and accountability and fairness. Yes things can be over-regulated, but then the solution is to regulate properly, not over-regulate. The reason we don't have libertarian or anarchist societies is because they fundamentally can't solve the problems around safety, accou…

my point is that regulation is a burden, not that it isn't the next step... from my point of view regulation is a workaround for our nightmare of an education system where giving kids a proper schooling is considered dangerous and a threat to national security

You really don't understand human beings at all, and this is coming from someone who also doesn't understand human beings.
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