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RapidRAW: A non-destructive and GPU-accelerated RAW image editor

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Re: RapidRAW: A non-destructive and GPU-accelerated RAW image editor

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Post by TsiCClawOfLight »

Nergg wrote: post #60
strogonoff wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you seek a GUI for managing/cataloguing photos, my advice would be to look for that and not a raw image processing tool that incidentally happens to also handle cataloguing (inevitably in a half-baked way). I have never seen Lightroom (or C1, for that matter) as compelling at all ever since I started using RawTherapee. Unlike, say, InDesign, which is legitimately a difficult to replace professional tool with incre…

Yes good point. But my needs are very limited. On macOS I use the Photo app to cull, make small adjustments, and crop. On Windows there is also a Photo app that allows such basic features. They both works with RAW and works fine with my NAS mount in smb to cull directly the files (though macOS is a pain for that, doesn't play well with files, need to import in lib). On linux, the default Gnome image viewer is nice bu…

It sounds like you would really like DigiKam! Great library management, and solid basic editing functionality. Optional face detection as well.

Re: RapidRAW: A non-destructive and GPU-accelerated RAW image editor

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Post by t0bia_s »

orbital-decay wrote: post #96
t0bia_s wrote: post #91

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Most photographers don't know how develop software at all. Please explain why photographers need 20 differnet sharpening methods, 5 demosaicing algorithms, many colour corrections that are almost useles if AI masking is not present? Coders often lost in all kind of geeky features that missing actual usability by targeted audience. Bloated software is not what I would expect from alternative to commercially used propr…

Because it's not necessarily about creative/artistic photography, it's also for things like e.g. microscopy or negative or scan processing, and it's not an alternative to Lightroom which does "magic" unacceptable in many technical use cases. You can ignore features that aren't made for you, and actually I think they're mostly hidden by default in DT (make a preset if you don't like the default tool selection). All th…

You can ignore features that aren't made for you

Another terrible design in darktable is default settings. I have no problem with options, but then you need carefully choose defaults that are selected questionable here - pure exhibitionism right after opening software.

I don't agree with your statement about developing by photographers. If so, there is higher probability that they would focus on UI with more aesthetic care than coders would do.

Lack of AI masking is too expensive to use by professionals. You simply cannot afford to mask manually bunch of images. Wider adoption among photographers is simply impossible.

Re: RapidRAW: A non-destructive and GPU-accelerated RAW image editor

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Post by vladvasiliu »

jacooper wrote: post #108
josephg wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been getting into photography lately too and running into the same question. There's no way I'm getting an adobe subscription. But I'm not sure what tools do I want to pick up instead. Apple Photos has gotten me pretty far, but I'm hitting the limits of what it can do. And my photo library is getting pretty big now - big enough that I want some software to manage where my photos live as well.

Capture one?

That's also ridiculously expensive. The only value proposition is if you're sure you won't update for several years.

Re: RapidRAW: A non-destructive and GPU-accelerated RAW image editor

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Post by Svoka »

999900000999 wrote: post #92
cybertimom wrote: post #29

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I think it's pretty simple. I'm just focused on the core features right now but I definitely plan to sign it in the next 1-2 weeks. Thanks :)

I wouldn't make the Apple Developer dance a priority unless you intend to sell a commercial signed version. Few reasons. 1. It's 100$ a year, which isn't pocket change when it's making you no revenue. 2. Apple likes to randomly deny developer accounts. 3. They have no issue with outright rejecting apps with vague reasoning. 4. Plenty of high quality raw editing apps already exist for OSX. If someone really wants to u…

I find it absolutely bizarre that people post about stuff they are seemingly have no idea about. Like, code signing & notarization provides clear quality of life improvement for many users. And your reasons are just plain wrong.

1. 100$ is a pocket change for many people. Depending where you live. I think it is enough of a barrier to force a thoughtful action. Also, to compare, cheapest certificates for signing windows software are like 450$/year. Microsoft has a hosted service now for $15/year, but that is still in beta. Both of those options are significantly more expensive than 99$/year Apple charges.

2. No, Apple does not deny randomly access to developer accounts. Also, this is quite besides the poin.

3. Code Signing has absolutely nothing to do with submitting your app to app store, or anything Apple has to approve of. Like, why even write about something you have no idea about?

4. True. Not sure how it is relevant.

Re: RapidRAW: A non-destructive and GPU-accelerated RAW image editor

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Post by replwoacause »

CharlesW wrote: post #94
josephg wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been getting into photography lately too and running into the same question. There's no way I'm getting an adobe subscription. But I'm not sure what tools do I want to pick up instead. Apple Photos has gotten me pretty far, but I'm hitting the limits of what it can do. And my photo library is getting pretty big now - big enough that I want some software to manage where my photos live as well.

> But I'm not sure what tools do I want to pick up instead. Apple Photos has gotten me pretty far, but I'm hitting the limits of what it can do. Be sure to take a close look at Nitro, created by a former Apple lead of Apple's Aperture, iPhoto, RAW Camera and Core Image engineering teams: https://www.gentlemencoders.com/nitro-for-macos/index.html

Played with Nitro this morning and compared my edits to those that came out of Lightroom and my camper manufacture’s RAW software and am very happy with the results. It has a user friendly interface, which I prefer to Lightroom’s, and I love that it’s a one time purchase. Thanks for the recommendation

Re: RapidRAW: A non-destructive and GPU-accelerated RAW image editor

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Post by CharlesW »

replwoacause wrote: post #115
CharlesW wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But I'm not sure what tools do I want to pick up instead. Apple Photos has gotten me pretty far, but I'm hitting the limits of what it can do. Be sure to take a close look at Nitro, created by a former Apple lead of Apple's Aperture, iPhoto, RAW Camera and Core Image engineering teams: https://www.gentlemencoders.com/nitro-for-macos/index.html

Played with Nitro this morning and compared my edits to those that came out of Lightroom and my camper manufacture’s RAW software and am very happy with the results. It has a user friendly interface, which I prefer to Lightroom’s, and I love that it’s a one time purchase. Thanks for the recommendation

Glad to hear it, thank you for the update!

Re: RapidRAW: A non-destructive and GPU-accelerated RAW image editor

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Post by 999900000999 »

Svoka wrote: post #114
999900000999 wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't make the Apple Developer dance a priority unless you intend to sell a commercial signed version. Few reasons. 1. It's 100$ a year, which isn't pocket change when it's making you no revenue. 2. Apple likes to randomly deny developer accounts. 3. They have no issue with outright rejecting apps with vague reasoning. 4. Plenty of high quality raw editing apps already exist for OSX. If someone really wants to u…

I find it absolutely bizarre that people post about stuff they are seemingly have no idea about. Like, code signing & notarization provides clear quality of life improvement for many users. And your reasons are just plain wrong. 1. 100$ is a pocket change for many people. Depending where you live. I think it is enough of a barrier to force a thoughtful action. Also, to compare, cheapest certificates for signing windo…

100$ a year is a lot of money if you aren't planning I'm selling anything. The instructions to build from scratch or run it without signing aren't difficult.

I've literally had to argue with Apple for months to get my account approved.

It was not a fun process, eventually they did grant me an account, but then just keep up an old hobbyist game I was wasting that 100$ a month.

I ended up just recompiling for WebGL and uploading to itch.

Going through the hoops for code signing and getting account doesn't make sense if OP isn't going to sell it on the app store.

Finally, it's not like this is the only raw editor.

How many people.

A: Will pick an open source feature lite raw editor which isn't going to be as good as Darktable or Lightroom.

And

B: Aren't willing to build from source or literally run a single terminal command to run the unsigned version.

Now, if OP wants to sell it on the app store then I'm completely wrong. But otherwise it's not a good use of time.

You're free to reach out to OP and offer them 100$ + another 300$ for time spent having to apply for a Developer account.

Re: RapidRAW: A non-destructive and GPU-accelerated RAW image editor

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Post by igouy »

roblh wrote: post #107
strogonoff wrote: post #16

The best raw image processing tool I know is called “RawTherapee”. It was developed by one or more absolute colour science geeks, it is CLI-scriptable, its companion RawPedia is a treasure trove of information (I learned many basics there, including how to create DCP profiles for calibration, dark frames, flat fields, etc.), and not to make a dig (fine, to make a bit of a dig) you can see the expertise starting with…

RawTherapee is great in most ways, except that all of the curves for adjusting anything have absolutely catastrophically bad handling. It's so amazing having access to the Lab colour adjustments but the sliders are abysmal, impossible to make any kind of precise adjustments, impossible to reset an individual slider/point back to it's default placement, impossible to undo the last action without resetting the entire w…

> impossible to make any kind of precise adjustments

That claim does not match my experience in any way.

For example, Control Cage curves have node value adjustment to 1/1000th.

https://rawpedia.rawtherapee.com/General_Comments_About_Some...

Re: RapidRAW: A non-destructive and GPU-accelerated RAW image editor

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Post by Sharlin »

Jaxan wrote: post #101
Sharlin wrote: post #28

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IME in photo post-processing, good UX, smooth multi-photo workflow and intuitive controls beat technical details every time. RawTherapee is better than Darktable. But that’s a pretty low bar to clear. There are reasons people pay for Lightroom.

I used RawTherapee a ton, but changed to Lightroom because the denoising is so much better. (I’m sure a more expensive camera would also help here, but I have what I have.) Now that I’m used to Lightroom it will be hard to switch back.

Yeah, LR's denoising is chef's kiss. It's much better than what Canon's own raw processor can do, for example.

Another thing I noticed with RawTherapee after LR was the sloooowness. Lightroom has been super optimized to show all edits (or their preview versions anyway) in real time.

Re: RapidRAW: A non-destructive and GPU-accelerated RAW image editor

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Post by strogonoff »

roblh wrote: post #107
strogonoff wrote: post #16

The best raw image processing tool I know is called “RawTherapee”. It was developed by one or more absolute colour science geeks, it is CLI-scriptable, its companion RawPedia is a treasure trove of information (I learned many basics there, including how to create DCP profiles for calibration, dark frames, flat fields, etc.), and not to make a dig (fine, to make a bit of a dig) you can see the expertise starting with…

RawTherapee is great in most ways, except that all of the curves for adjusting anything have absolutely catastrophically bad handling. It's so amazing having access to the Lab colour adjustments but the sliders are abysmal, impossible to make any kind of precise adjustments, impossible to reset an individual slider/point back to it's default placement, impossible to undo the last action without resetting the entire w…

I think control cage or parametric curves can be quite precise…
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