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What a Hacker Stole from Me

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Re: What a Hacker Stole from Me

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Post by beeflet »

socalgal2 wrote: post #69

hackers effectively killed https://glslsandbox.com It's been closed for about a year and a half because some hackers spammed it and no one has time to deal with it. There are other sites like shadertoy that do something similar but still, it sucks to see someone's project get shit on by assholes. As for denial of service issues, because it's free I've mostly hidden behind cloudflare in the hope of not having to perso…

Physical systems are different from information systems. You can make an impenetrable information system, but not an impenetrable physical system. Physical systems are inherently safe due to their locality, and can benefit from security-by-obscurity.

When you hook up a weak information system to a global network where anyone can interact with it, and someone finds a way to break it, perhaps it is worth looking into the systemic weaknesses instead of getting angry about a given attacker.

Re: What a Hacker Stole from Me

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Post by bornfreddy »

socalgal2 wrote: post #71
acomjean wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does suck. Because it’s a reminder that they’re are jerks out there and hard to avoid. Especially on the web. It also must sting because he’s trying to be a good citizen. We see this in abusive behavior towards open source maintainers. It saps their will. And 100 thanks About a year ago the site I worked on had a hacking attempt. I’m not sure why, it was a site that provided online genetic tools for researchers. W…

Just as a note to 100 thanks 10 years. I get less than 2 thanks a year. I'm not saying I deserve any or that I want them. Only providing data. I also have 100+ open source projects on github. A few with ~1000 stars. Same thing, few if any thanks. I wish there was some way to make it easier to thank. I'm just as guilty of not thanking all the open source projects I use except for the few I donate to. It would still su…

Just wanted to say that each of those stars is a small thank you from someone. At least I always gave them with this in mind, and I always assumed others did too.

I don't know which projects are yours, but a big thank you to you and everyone else who is helping others either through opensource or otherwise!

Re: What a Hacker Stole from Me

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Post by beeflet »

Drunkfoowl wrote: post #72
socalgal2 wrote: post #69

hackers effectively killed https://glslsandbox.com It's been closed for about a year and a half because some hackers spammed it and no one has time to deal with it. There are other sites like shadertoy that do something similar but still, it sucks to see someone's project get shit on by assholes. As for denial of service issues, because it's free I've mostly hidden behind cloudflare in the hope of not having to perso…

The last part is so true. I’m a big guy, 6’3’’ 260, multiple Ironman, sport, climbing, lifting and hunting brush with a bit of combat training over the years. Most people in my life I imagine I could kill with my bare hands. But I don’t, because like you said that isn’t how life works. Yet people apply it to anything they want recklessly. Cars, phones, or like above peoples projects. I wonder how they would feel if I…

>Most people in my life I imagine I could kill with my bare hands. But I don’t, because like you said that isn’t how life works.

You don't, not because you are such a great guy, but because society's protection of physical systems is rigorous through thousands (millions?) of years of evolution. If you assault someone in the modern day, you will probably get thrown in jail or you will get shot.

Our information systems (such as the internet) are systemically weak. They are poorly designed and have not gone through the same evolution. I think it is good to exploit these weak information systems so that they can evolve.

Re: What a Hacker Stole from Me

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Post by beeflet »

rvnx wrote: post #78
VladVladikoff wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I’m just a curmudgeonly old fart but I’m so tired of everyone pretending like the entire internet being MiTM’d by Cloudflare is somehow a good thing. FWIF if you are looking for a decent alternative take a look at ModSecurity project by OWASP.

It’s a good cost vs reward ratio in that specific case. Very little risk if NSA knows your MyNoise history. And for emails and very confidential content they have partnerships with Apple, Google, Meta, etc

Think bigger. Very little risk if the NSA knows your MyNoise history, very great risk if the government knows all of your history.

SSL added and removed here :)

Re: What a Hacker Stole from Me

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Post by HenryBemis »

theteapot wrote: post #99
Hnrobert42 wrote: post #57

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I had long-term noise issues with the tenant directly above me. Periodically complaining to the office got sympathy but little else. Then I created a iOs shortcut that sent a templated email to my landlord each time I told Siri "Loud neighbors." I was surprised at the effectiveness of 3 - 4 emails a week. I suspect it is one thing to shoosh someone while ushering them out of your office. It's another to have to respo…

Noise pollution is yet another tax disproportionately shouldered by the poor.

Yes!

I was "stuck" (someone dropped me off and someone else was supposed to pick me up, but they were late so..) on a highway/motorway in (edit: I wrote it and then deleted it for privacy) some weeks back. The weather was great! Sun was shining, a cool 24 degrees, I was wearing my hoodie, it was windy. I got bored on waiting by the highway/motorway.

No village/coffee place anywhere near, so I decided to take a vertical small road and walk by a green field. And it was windy. And I could see the bushes and leaves from the trees swinging back and forth. And it was windy and very calming (to my soul) so I stood there gazing at the wonderful nature. And I was thinking, why the fuck do we live in cement boxes in cities? I could buy "a few sqm, build something with glass/brick/steel, no deep foundations, and smaller 25sqm "hut" as my office right next to the "house" and live next to a field and have a great life...

Anyway, my friend arrived, picked me up and we continued driving.

I was thinking that the cost of remote land/house/'office' would be 50% on the cost of a 100sqm flat in (most), with the pro of the calmness and the con of being alone in the middle of nowhere.

But there is always the option...

Re: What a Hacker Stole from Me

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Post by margalabargala »

flkenosad wrote: post #97
ProllyInfamous wrote: post #87

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I'm about your size, and have actually done what you describe (not by my own choice). The process takes much longer than one might suppose, however incredibly difficult to imagine. We are nothing more than temporary meatbags, fragilely broken. Take care of yourself, each other. ¢¢

You killed someone with your bare hands but it wasn't your choice? Sorry I'm lost.

Sometimes, other people can decide to put you in a situation where among all possible actions, physically stopping that person by any means is the least bad option by several orders of magnitude.

People refer to this as having "no choice", assuming most people understand "standing there and watching them repeatedly stab my infant with a fork" is not a choice anyone would make. It's an idiom.

Re: What a Hacker Stole from Me

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Post by NilMostChill »

luckylion wrote: post #102
NilMostChill wrote: post #60

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It being common doesn't mean it's OK, it also doesn't mean people aren't allowed to be upset by it. Casual racism and bigotry are common, "You probably need to calm down a bit" is dismissive and condescending.

It being common doesn't make it OK, but it does make it not a personal attack. Exploit scanners are common, they are not someone attacking you personally. I'd be surprised if the mass download and the exploit scanner were even related. Much more likely they weren't and somebody just messed up some bot they were building and fetched everything in a loop. It's annoying, yes, but it's not personal. Nobody is attacking h…

None of what i said had anything to do with the nature of the attack, personal or otherwise.

The author seems to be taking it a bit personally but they don't seem to be implying an attack targeted to them exclusively as much as an attack that they experienced personally but it could be either i suppose.

The blog post was, "this is a thing that happened, followed by another thing i think was related, i am upset, here is why"

Your response was "this is common, suck it up"

The post itself doesn't mention any sort of persecution or targeted attack.

What you said was dismissive and condescending, being technically correct about things that are unrelated doesn't negate that.

Re: What a Hacker Stole from Me

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Post by VladVladikoff »

brookst wrote: post #105
VladVladikoff wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I’m just a curmudgeonly old fart but I’m so tired of everyone pretending like the entire internet being MiTM’d by Cloudflare is somehow a good thing. FWIF if you are looking for a decent alternative take a look at ModSecurity project by OWASP.

One good sign that your viewpoint may not be well thought through is if you find yourself claiming that any contrary opinions could only be pretense.

Yeah. You’re right. I should have spent the time to write out my thoughts more succinctly. I appreciate your comment. It’s what I really enjoy about discourse on hackernews.

My main problem with it is that we put all websites behind a single point of failure. One with large corporate interests. It is the antithesis of the free and open web.

Also I dislike it from a technical standpoint. It makes response times from the server much worse. And I spend a lot of time improving the performance of my sites, to throw that all away because I’m afraid of hackers seems like the wrong solution to me personally.

Re: What a Hacker Stole from Me

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Post by efilife »

NilMostChill wrote: post #60
mathiaspoint wrote: post #53

You probably need to calm down a bit. Everyone who has any kind of service on the open internet sees this stuff in their logs all the time. Most of it is entirely automated. That's just how the internet works.

It being common doesn't mean it's OK, it also doesn't mean people aren't allowed to be upset by it. Casual racism and bigotry are common, "You probably need to calm down a bit" is dismissive and condescending.

"Casual racism and bigotry are common"

Where?

Re: What a Hacker Stole from Me

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Post by ProllyInfamous »

flkenosad wrote: post #97
ProllyInfamous wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm about your size, and have actually done what you describe (not by my own choice). The process takes much longer than one might suppose, however incredibly difficult to imagine. We are nothing more than temporary meatbags, fragilely broken. Take care of yourself, each other. ¢¢

You killed someone with your bare hands but it wasn't your choice? Sorry I'm lost.

I've intentionally left details vague — legally: a free man.

Tip: bare-handed, watch out for teeth — the will to live is strong.

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