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Games run faster on SteamOS than Windows 11, Ars testing finds

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Re: Games run faster on SteamOS than Windows 11, Ars testing finds

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Post by maxhille »

komali2 wrote: post #55
dcl wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't support NVIDIA GPU's!? Is this a display or gaming specific thing? All the ML people are using NVIDIA GPU's on Linux.

Nvidia support across the desktop ecosystem is poor, for example practically nonfunctional in Sway. And just buggy in other Wayland based desktop environments (kde seems to be the best in my experience).

WRT Nvidia+Sway this was certainly true not so long ago. But since the latest Ubuntu release and with a recent driver I am running this combo and it works flawlessly.

Re: Games run faster on SteamOS than Windows 11, Ars testing finds

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Post by zrobotics »

dottjt wrote: post #111

The main pain point I have with SteamOS is game compatibility, in particular with older games (90s/2000s). Maybe 60% of games work and it's such a headache trying to get it working, if it can be fixed at all. Modern games however tend to work really well.

I mean, I keep a physical vintage winXP machine around for games of that vintage because I find they don't tend to play super nice with modern hardware on windows either. I haven't switched my main personal desktop away from win10 yet due to compatibility with my Cad program, but playing games from that vintage was a nightmare IME. I dunno, maybe I'm unlucky with my selection not playing nice, but I found it way easier to just have a decent 2000's vintage PC hooked up with a KVM to my 3rd 1080p monitor for that. Bonus is that, since I'm playing those games for nostalgia anyway, it's better running them under XP anyway. I haven't gone as far as hooking up a CRT, just due to the space. But the second desktop is tucked away under the desk, so the only real downside is having a low red monitor hooked up. No big loss there, the tertiary monitor is mostly for slack and a media player otherwise so it doe3need to be nicer. Just something to consider, since PCs of that vintage aren't that expensive unless you want a high-end example.

Re: Games run faster on SteamOS than Windows 11, Ars testing finds

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Post by ryukoposting »

jekwoooooe wrote: post #39

The last missing piece for full Linux gaming is anticheat. Last I looked into it, the major vendors don’t want to support it due to lack of kernel security and the ones that do, game devs refuse to allow it (destiny for example) One we can play AAA games I am literally ditching windows forever. Steamos is the best thing that has happened to gaming

Don't forget the ancillary applications that gamers want. If you follow Discord's website, you're gonna end up installing a DEB file manually. Then, every couple weeks, Discord won't launch until you go download another DEB file and install that. Oh, and good luck getting Discord screen sharing working on Wayland. I tried for hours, gave up, and switched to X11. So, just in Discord, we've already run into two hideous workflows that no Windows native is going to take in stride.

Re: Games run faster on SteamOS than Windows 11, Ars testing finds

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Post by pixxel »

lenerdenator wrote: post #75

When SteamOS and Ganoo/L00nockz become first-class gaming citizens, that's when I'm building a gaming PC for the first time since 2012. I'm a Mac guy now mainly because of my job and I like UNIX-y stuff now, but of course, gaming is even more lacking than Linux. We're so close. Once AAA releases and GPU drivers get there, it's over the cliff, and I could see that being in the next five years.

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Re: Games run faster on SteamOS than Windows 11, Ars testing finds

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Post by hinkley »

flaminHotSpeedo wrote: post #92

Quote: Today, though, Ars testing on the Lenovo Legion Go S finds recent games generally run at higher frame rates on SteamOS 3.7 than on Windows 11 That's not just a buried lede, this title is straight up wrong (or at least, not backed up by data) With SteamOS coming to arbitrary hardware, that is a very bold claim to make. And not one that ars has data to back up, apparently. It's also an embarrassment of an articl…

This story has been floating around for weeks already. I’ve seen two different videos talking about this already including one claiming Microsoft has already stated they are working on it. It’s not just that the games run faster but that battery life is also better. On a handheld system battery life will change minds more than frame rates.

Correction: it’s been a month and they had both devices:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=CJXp3UYj50Q

And it’s $130 cheaper.

Re: Games run faster on SteamOS than Windows 11, Ars testing finds

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Post by hinkley »

schmorptron wrote: post #114

i wonder how much of that is simply due to how incredible dxvk is. I think intel even uses it as part of their windows drivers to translate some older dx version games to vulkan because it performs so much better on their cards.

I’m hearing that Microsoft has done a shitty job of tuning windows for the Lenovo device. Someone last week cited commentary that Microsoft has been working on it and they think they can reduce the Windows overhead by TWO GIGABYTES. Why is the fucking operating system using 2 gigabytes of memory in the first place, let alone enough more than that to be able to reduce memory usage by 2 GB.

Re: Games run faster on SteamOS than Windows 11, Ars testing finds

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Post by zrobotics »

flaminHotSpeedo wrote: post #92

Quote: Today, though, Ars testing on the Lenovo Legion Go S finds recent games generally run at higher frame rates on SteamOS 3.7 than on Windows 11 That's not just a buried lede, this title is straight up wrong (or at least, not backed up by data) With SteamOS coming to arbitrary hardware, that is a very bold claim to make. And not one that ars has data to back up, apparently. It's also an embarrassment of an articl…

The choice of games is also super strange. Why include borderlands 3? A 2019 cel-shaded release that isn't super demanding seems odd. Homeworld and returnal also seem odd, they're a little more modern but I don't typically see them used as graphical benchmarks. The only game on their list that I typically see for benchmarking is cyberpunk 2077, the rest of the list honestly looks like they did some cherry picking with their selection to massage the data.
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