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Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by raincole »

barbazoo wrote: post #103

> To use Gemini CLI free-of-charge, simply login with a personal Google account to get a free Gemini Code Assist license. That free license gets you access to Gemini 2.5 Pro and its massive 1 million token context window. To ensure you rarely, if ever, hit a limit during this preview, we offer the industry’s largest allowance: 60 model requests per minute and 1,000 requests per day at no charge. If it sounds too good…

Because Google is rich and they'd like to get you hooked. Just like how ChatGPT has a free tier.

Also they can throttle the service whenever they feel it's too costly.

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by ur-whale »

iandanforth wrote: post #15

I love how fragmented Google's Gemini offerings are. I'm a Pro subscriber, but I now learn I should be a "Gemini Code Assist Standard or Enterprise" user to get additional usage. I didn't even know that existed! As a run of the mill Google user I get a generous usage tier but paying them specifically for "Gemini" doesn't get me anything when it comes to "Gemini CLI". Delightful!

> Delightful!

You clearly have never had the "pleasure" to work with a Google product manager.

Especially the kind that were hired in the last 15-ish years.

This type of situation is absolutely typical, and probably one of the more benign thing among the general blight they typically inflict on Google's product offering.

The cartesian product of pricing options X models is an effing nightmare to navigate.

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by unshavedyak »

__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #85
iandanforth wrote: post #15

I love how fragmented Google's Gemini offerings are. I'm a Pro subscriber, but I now learn I should be a "Gemini Code Assist Standard or Enterprise" user to get additional usage. I didn't even know that existed! As a run of the mill Google user I get a generous usage tier but paying them specifically for "Gemini" doesn't get me anything when it comes to "Gemini CLI". Delightful!

Anthropic is the same. Unless it has changed within the last few months, you can subscribe to Claude but if you want to use Claude Code it'll come out of your "API usage" bucket which is billed separately than the subscription. Some jerk has learned that we prefer CLI things and has come to the conclusion that we should therefore pay extra for them. Workaround is to use their GUI with some MCPs but I dislike it becau…

In addition to others mentioning subscriptions being better in Claude Code, i wanted to compare the two so i tried to find a Claude Max equivalent license... i have no clue how. In their blog post they mention `Gemini Code Assist Standard or Enterprise license` but they don't even link to it.. lol.

Some googling lands me to a guide: https://cloud.google.com/gemini/docs/discover/set-up-gemini#...

I stopped there because i don't want to signup i just wanted to review, but i don't have an admin panel or etc.

It feels insane to me that there's a readme on how to give them money. Claude's Max purchase was just as easy as Pro, fwiw.

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by Workaccount2 »

__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #85
iandanforth wrote: post #15

I love how fragmented Google's Gemini offerings are. I'm a Pro subscriber, but I now learn I should be a "Gemini Code Assist Standard or Enterprise" user to get additional usage. I didn't even know that existed! As a run of the mill Google user I get a generous usage tier but paying them specifically for "Gemini" doesn't get me anything when it comes to "Gemini CLI". Delightful!

Anthropic is the same. Unless it has changed within the last few months, you can subscribe to Claude but if you want to use Claude Code it'll come out of your "API usage" bucket which is billed separately than the subscription. Some jerk has learned that we prefer CLI things and has come to the conclusion that we should therefore pay extra for them. Workaround is to use their GUI with some MCPs but I dislike it becau…

I think it is pretty clear that these $20/subs are loss leaders, and really only meant to get regular people to really start leaning on LLMs. Once they are hooked, we will see what the actual price of using so much compute is. I would imagine right now they are pricing their APIs either at cost or slightly below.

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by albertzeyer »

The API can be used both via your normal Google account, or via API key?

Because it says in the README:

> Authenticate: When prompted, sign in with your personal Google account. This will grant you up to 60 model requests per minute and 1,000 model requests per day using Gemini 2.5 Pro.

> For advanced use or increased limits: If you need to use a specific model or require a higher request capacity, you can use an API key: ...

When I have the Google AI Pro subscription in my Google account, and I use the personal Google account for authentication here, will I also have more requests per day then?

I'm currently wondering what makes more sense for me (not for CLI in particular, but for Gemini in general): To use the Google AI Pro subscription, or to use an API key. But I would also want to use the API maybe at some point. I thought the API requires an API key, but here it seems also the normal Google account can be used?

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by rtaylorgarlock »

I spent 8k tokens after giving the interface 'cd ../', resulting in Gemini explaining that it can't see the other dir outside of current scope but with recommendation ls files in that dir. Which then reminded me of my core belief that we will always have to be above these tools in order to understand and execute. I wonder if/when I'll be wrong.

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by bdmorgan »

albertzeyer wrote: post #115

The API can be used both via your normal Google account, or via API key? Because it says in the README: > Authenticate: When prompted, sign in with your personal Google account. This will grant you up to 60 model requests per minute and 1,000 model requests per day using Gemini 2.5 Pro. > For advanced use or increased limits: If you need to use a specific model or require a higher request capacity, you can use an API…

It's firmly on the radar - we will have a great answer for this soon.

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by ur-whale »

cperry wrote: post #41

Hi - I work on this. Uptake is a steep curve right now, spare a thought for the TPUs today. Appreciate all the takes so far, the team is reading this thread for feedback. Feel free to pile on with bugs or feature requests we'll all be reading.

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Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by tln »

iainmerrick wrote: post #30
ZeroCool2u wrote: post #22

Ugh, I really wish this had been written in Go or Rust. Just something that produces a single binary executable and doesn't require you to install a runtime like Node.

Looks like you could make a standalone executable with Bun and/or Deno: https://bun.sh/docs/bundler/executables https://docs.deno.com/runtime/reference/cli/compile/ Note, I haven't checked that this actually works, although if it's straightforward Node code without any weird extensions it should work in Bun at least. I'd be curious to see how the exe size compares to Go and Rust!

A Bun "hello world" is 58Mb

Claude also requires npm, FWIW.

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