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Samsung embeds IronSource spyware app on phones across WANA

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Re: Samsung embeds IronSource spyware app on phones across WANA

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We don't know what any of these acronyms mean!

MENA - Middle East & North Africa WANA - West Asia & North Africa SMEX - "a non-profit that advocates for and advances human rights in digital spaces across West Asia and North Africa." (from their website)

"non-profit" doesn't mean "this guys are morally right and only conveys truths"

it just means that they don't pay taxes

Re: Samsung embeds IronSource spyware app on phones across WANA

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AppCloud, developed by the controversial Israeli-founded company ironSource (now owned by the American company Unity) Yes the Unity 3D engine company wow.

So Unity can now be considered malware by association.

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Re: Samsung embeds IronSource spyware app on phones across WANA

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> AppCloud—pre-installed on Samsung’s A and M series smartphones. Samsung’s A and M series smartphones are their cheapest models so their buyers probably cannot afford better phones. I don’t know of any other brands selling in the region with similarly priced models that have better privacy practices than Samsung either—they’re all the same at that price point I’m afraid.

In my case I wanted a damn SD card slot. And more than 2 years of security updates.

Sony still sells flagship phones with an SD slot. I wish my Xperia was cheaper but other than that I'm very happy with it.

Re: Samsung embeds IronSource spyware app on phones across WANA

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making it nearly impossible for regular users to uninstall it without root access, which voids warranties and poses security risks Stop parroting the corporate propaganda that put us into this stupid situation in the first place. Having root access on devices you own should be a fundamental right, as otherwise it's not ownership.

I'm pretty sure the recent switch 2 "license to use the hardware" has entirely killed any notion that you actually own the hardware and are free to do anything with it.

Especially in Africa, where privacy and consumer rights are probably less relevant than the US/EU.

Re: Samsung embeds IronSource spyware app on phones across WANA

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making it nearly impossible for regular users to uninstall it without root access, which voids warranties and poses security risks Stop parroting the corporate propaganda that put us into this stupid situation in the first place. Having root access on devices you own should be a fundamental right, as otherwise it's not ownership.

We need regulation which defines that any hardware device capable of running software developed by a third party different from the hardware manufacturer qualifies as a general purpose computing device, and that any such device is disallowed to put cryptographic or other restrictions on what software the user wants to execute. This pertains to all programmable components on the device, including low-level hardware co…

> any such device is disallowed to put cryptographic or other restrictions on what software the user wants to execute

Won't this also forbid virus scanners that quarantine files?

> This pertains to all programmable components on the device, including low-level hardware controllers.

I don't think it's reasonable to expect any manufacturer to uphold a warranty if making unlimited changes to the system is permitted.

Re: Samsung embeds IronSource spyware app on phones across WANA

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> Seriously, you never had to provide tech support to a parent, relative, or friend whose computer got totally fraked because they had root? I accept this metric. It means non-rooted devices are unsafe. I'm career IT support. In the entire age of smartphones, 100% of the malware/crapware I've seen was on non-rooted devices - most of it pushed on users by manufacturers, carriers and OS devs.

> I'm career IT support. In the entire age of smartphones, 100% of the malware/crapware I've seen was on non-rooted devices - most of it pushed on users by manufacturers, carriers and OS devs.

To add on, almost all the money people I know who have lost to scams have been through non-rooted devices. Sending an OTP or making a bank transfer because "you're under police investigation" is cheerfully easy even without the user knowing what "root" is.

Also see: the recent phish on Krebs (on security). A malicious email and entering a password to a webpage does not need root access, for better or worse. In fact, a rooted device might block your bank app, actually making money transfer scams tougher, ironically.

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