Little Snitch can detect and block connections at the process level. https://www.obdev.at/products/littlesnitch/index.html
Some Apple Apps can bypass Little Snitch though. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24838816
That was fixed long ago.
My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use
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Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is a very valid criticism of my post and many that group "opinions" as if they come from a single source. Here, the top-voted comment is OK with Apple software phoning home, but there's no evidence they are not equally OK with Microsoft software phoning home, so I'm contrasting this popular opinion with another popular opinion elsewhere. Here's one example from a different user, where Microsoft is described as "…
Microsoft put ads in their OS menus. Kindof a stretch to "both sides" this one.
No it isn't. The context is telemetry and spying, not built in advertising.
Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is only because there is barely any open source software for Linux that is backed by cloud services. Now install Spotify, VSCode, Steam for Linux and you will see the same kind of chatter with backend services.
> That is only because there is barely any open source software for Linux that is backed by cloud services. Some of us would call this a feature. I am quite happy to have control over my computer and the data on it without having to trust third party cloud services.
Good, Linux will be perfect for you. The vast majority of people want/need a bit more than that. Most consumers have come to expect a certain baseline such as:
- Cloud Drive
- Up to date Weather/News
- Malware checks
- System update checks
- Push Notifications
and more.
Before you say "I don't care about News", sure but lots of people do and everyone has a different subset of the network-traffic-causing features. Yes, this means many things are "on by default" but, again, that's what the average consumer wants. HN is a completely different crowd with, sometimes, different wants/needs as compared to the average user.
Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's the problem with the benevolent dictator. It's no problem as long as the dictator is benevolent. Also benevolence is a matter of reference. Something that might be ok for most, might not be for you. There is also the question of ownership. Do you really own something you bought if you don't control its behaviour? Is it even moral to sell stuff to customers if they won't fully own it, or if the nature of ownershi…
thanks that is just a random rant do you think it is a problem that the "benevolent dictator" operating system contacts an endpoint to keep its anti-malware list up to date?
Do you have the option to change the list if you want to maintain your own? What happens if it starts blacklisting legit applications because it poses a threat to Apple's business model?
Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use
#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's the problem with the benevolent dictator. It's no problem as long as the dictator is benevolent. Also benevolence is a matter of reference. Something that might be ok for most, might not be for you. There is also the question of ownership. Do you really own something you bought if you don't control its behaviour? Is it even moral to sell stuff to customers if they won't fully own it, or if the nature of ownershi…
Can you explain how it would be less of a problem if Apple out every service begins one DNS name? That’s the complaint, right? Too many DNS names?
No, the problem is always choice and ownership, not complexity.
Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use
#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is it even a push notification if you have to fetch them from a server?
How do you think push should work? Any push service works this way. The client contacts the server to be updated. The server gives a no data or a data response. The server cannot magically contact the client.
What do you think the word "push" means in the word "push"? It doesn't mean "pull", btw.
Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use
#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
> That is only because there is barely any open source software for Linux that is backed by cloud services. Some of us would call this a feature. I am quite happy to have control over my computer and the data on it without having to trust third party cloud services.
Good, Linux will be perfect for you. The vast majority of people want/need a bit more than that. Most consumers have come to expect a certain baseline such as: - Cloud Drive - Up to date Weather/News - Malware checks - System update checks - Push Notifications and more. Before you say "I don't care about News", sure but lots of people do and everyone has a different subset of the network-traffic-causing features. Yes…
Sure some people want the news, but I find it kind of absurd that could justify a computer phoning home regularly. Making an API call when the user opens a news app is more than sufficient and quick enough to not notice.
"What about the news widget?" I find it difficult to believe the average user even remembers the news widget exists in Mac OS since it's hidden away in a non-obvious panel.
The most compelling cases for phoning home are OS updates and Drive like services, but at the end of the day this should all be easy to disable should the user want to.
> HN is a completely different crowd
Yes, HN is filled with the very worst kind of techbros who regularly defend bad practices under the guise of saving the average consumer from themselves.
Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use
#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why use Apple at all if it’s so user-hostile? (I’m a Windows user.)
Anybody who has done similar checks for windows will see an order of magnitude more connections being made. As someone who got their start managing windows devices, and who has gone through the painful steps of mapping out what each such connection is meant for, I was suprised to see that there was ONLY 63 connections being made in an hour for this article. The last time I mapped such connections for a windows device…
To be fair, "about 200+" is far from "an order of magnitude" of 63.
Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why use Apple at all if it’s so user-hostile? (I’m a Windows user.)
Windows telemetry is way more insane Small sample of telemetry and spying domains (out of date): https://raw.githubusercontent.com/crazy-max/WindowsSpyBlocke... https://raw.githubusercontent.com/crazy-max/WindowsSpyBlocke... https://raw.githubusercontent.com/crazy-max/WindowsSpyBlocke... https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Strappazzon/teleme7ry/mast...
How does one verify all those domains are not essential to the OS?
Re: My Mac contacted 63 different Apple owned domains in an hour, while not is use
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why use Apple at all if it’s so user-hostile? (I’m a Windows user.)
How do you get all the bloatware off and de-metric your Windows? With Apple it is one criminal instead of an oligarchy of crime.
Installing LTSC takes you a long way towards that goal.