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Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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If this is true it almost literally means black holes are a way for universes to make children. If we apply Darwin’s principles of the strongest survive this must mean that universes that produce the most black holes are the “best”. If correct, what does this actually mean?

Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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Isn't time a human invention useful to model the nature? It's literally just a defined interaction as a reference, i.e. the sun rising up and going down which is the rotation of the earth. So IRL there's no time, there's no need to have a beginning or an end. Whatever happened when all the matter was close together isn't the beginning of anything, just a phase.

Time is the coordinate of spacetime that has a different sign in the metric than the other three.

Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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I speculate that the big bang is/was fueled by all the black holes that existed and will exist, like a huge cycle where all the energy sucked into black holes converges at the same point in time causing the big bang.

How do you deal with Hawking radiation?

Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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You’re stating this as if determinism has been proven beyond a doubt which is not the case.

I think it's unclear what kind of determinism you are presuming. Determinism in the universe? Determinism in consciousness? Certainly a deterministic machine can exist in a non-deterministic universe. However I didn't just assume a lack of free will. I also assumed a lack of identity . Do you realize that who you are is socially defined? When you breathe in, the air in the room around you becomes part of you. When yo…

Ah, so we’re playing at being shamans.

In that case I dub you a mushroom.

Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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That explains nothing.

Neither does the precursor to the Big Bang. It's the same exact thing.

They are not the same thing. Religion and science may try to answer the same questions, but they are entirely different endeavors.

Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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Might as well believe in God if you’re going to believe in spontaneous accidental creation…

Why not? If you can't observe it, test it, and reproduce it, then it lies outside the realm of science and in the realm of belief. Until someone figures out a way to experimentally verify the big bang hypothesis (or any other explanation for the origin of the universe or what came "before"), it's entirely fair to attribute it to whatever you feel like, be it a god or anything else. There is no law of the universe tha…

Well, I think surely the entirely fair thing to do is to just admit we don't know rather than make any attribution or imply any possession of an answer to those questions?

Re: Research suggests Big Bang may have taken place inside a black hole

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's unclear what kind of determinism you are presuming. Determinism in the universe? Determinism in consciousness? Certainly a deterministic machine can exist in a non-deterministic universe. However I didn't just assume a lack of free will. I also assumed a lack of identity . Do you realize that who you are is socially defined? When you breathe in, the air in the room around you becomes part of you. When yo…

Ah, so we’re playing at being shamans. In that case I dub you a mushroom.

Don't be silly. I didn't say anything about shamans. I'm saying human existence is subjective. Culpability, like the courtroom joke above, is subjective. They're useful models for how the world works but it isn't objective reality.

We would do well to remember that every now and then. People who get too into pretending their perspective is objective reality tend to do stupid things.

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