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After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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post #106

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Right. The question is whether porn is poisonous, and many people (myself included) genuinely feel the answer is yes. Mature, responsible adults can often ration their consumption enough to avoid too many negative effects - as they do with alcohol - but even adults sometimes fail and for children it's much harder.

Well, social networks and *-toks are also poisonous for your dopaminergic system. As well as certain classes of games, I guess here's a spectrum. But the best option I see is to educate _everyone_ including kids about mental hygiene. Rather than enforcing unenforceable restrictions.

> educate _everyone_ including kids about mental hygiene

Hear, hear!

The most important skills are underrated in so many societies.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

#112
post #16

Fascinating that France is PH's second-biggest market, presumably after the US.

How is that surprising? After the US, the three largest Western countries are Germany (which already banned Pornhub), the UK and France, but the UK and France are virtually tied in terms of population, so it was always going to be a tossup between the two.

it was always going to be a tossup between the two.

UK slang and this context give this a very relevant double meaning. Well played if this was intentional!

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

#113
post #16

Fascinating that France is PH's second-biggest market, presumably after the US.

How is that surprising? After the US, the three largest Western countries are Germany (which already banned Pornhub), the UK and France, but the UK and France are virtually tied in terms of population, so it was always going to be a tossup between the two.

it was always going to be a tossup between the two.

UK slang and this context give this a very relevant double meaning. Well played if this was intentional!

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

#114
Maybe it just seems like a lot but it’s interesting how much shit Texas got for its age verification law when other western countries either were doing similar or pushing for similar laws. UK, Canada, France, Australia, I think I saw someone in the comments say Germany has something similar.

Pornography isn’t all that healthy but so is parents not stepping up and educating their kids on sex, even if it is awkward to talk about.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

#115
post #17

> A more technically sound approach would be content controls directly implemented on the devices parents chose to give their children Passive aggression level 10, and I approve.

This is the only true solution. Parents need to take responsibility for what their kids are doing online, what they’re viewing and who they’re talking to. This generation of parents should be prepared for that but apparently not.

I tried to block YouTube when my kids were remote learning during the pandemic, it took several attempts and they were in grade school. They even got around Apple's considerable content controls I had to set up a DNS proxy.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

#116
post #73

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How is this passive aggression? “You’re not using porn, because I say so, and you’re not using a computer without a porn filter, because I bought it” That’s not passive aggression, that’s responsible parenting and clear boundaries.

"Because I say so" is a weak ass argument, no argument at all. "Because I bought it" is passive aggressive, because you do not intend to allow even if you did not buy it.

It’s not an argument, it’s a command.

You’re not convincing your kids that you are right. You are reminding them of the consequences if they disagree.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

#117
post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the only true solution. Parents need to take responsibility for what their kids are doing online, what they’re viewing and who they’re talking to. This generation of parents should be prepared for that but apparently not.

I tried to block YouTube when my kids were remote learning during the pandemic, it took several attempts and they were in grade school. They even got around Apple's considerable content controls I had to set up a DNS proxy.

My condolences, you are raising software engineers.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

#118

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This never happens tho - parents dont sometimes even know how to use the tech. Its like giving a gun to a child and telling them its ok, just remember when you open the packaging to take the safety off. ...and oh yeh the safety software changes every few months so you will have to review it

I’m sorry who is who in this analogy. Because if internet/tech is the gun then the clear solution is “not giving your children guns”. Bad modern parents just give their kids an iPad.

Yeah I just wouldn’t give them one

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

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> “double-anonymity” or "double-blind" protocol: the site never sees the user’s identity, the verifier never learns which site is being visited, and only a yes/no “18+” token is exchanged. Isn't this an actually reasonable solution? I assumed age verification was supposed to be done by the site itself, and therefore it was considered a very bad idea. But this... what's the problem with this method?

> But this... what's the problem with this method? You're just hoping that there's never a leak of any UUID(s) that could be used to correlate things. The ad-tech industry has pioneered de-anonymization tech and they're very, very good at it. Tangential question: if the principal is divorced from the "is not a minor" signal, what prevents a thrifty youth from just buying/stealing somebody's token?

> You're just hoping that there's never a leak of any UUID(s) that could be used to correlate things.

No. For any technology you could argue I'm just hoping it won't fail. If I fly with a plane, I'm just hoping it won't crash, right?

In fact, there would be security measures making it less likey that there is a leak. I am literally not "just hoping".

Now those security measures might fail of course. But what are the probabilities? That matters.

> The ad-tech industry has pioneered de-anonymization tech and they're very, very good at it.

Please explain how this does not apply to opening pornhub on my computer right now, with zero age verification systems. I think it applies perfectly, and so it is not an actual argument in this discussion.

Re: After Pornhub left France, this VPN saw a 1,000% surge in signups in 30 minutes

#120
post #56
post #22

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what makes you think it's banned in Germany?

https://netzpolitik.org/2025/porno-streit-vor-gericht-darf-d... Skimming this it sounds like pornhub is/was at least partially blocked on the ISP level. Not sure about the extent of the blockage today but I could imagine that these blocks put a dent in their user numbers.

ah they just changed their domain to dot org to get around the block, most users visit sites through their search engine so I doubt many noticed. as of now in germany the org is the first result on google
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