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Re: 4-7-8 Breathing

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Post by lbj »

jensenbox wrote: post #44
lbj wrote: post #26

Easily one of the worst UI's I've seen since 2020. Timing the initial in/exhales is tricky, because the circle contracts, not to its center, but to a nearly invisible (on my screen at least) smaller circle in the middle. No visible counters. After a while, it just says "Hold". No indication that we're done. And I sit there, almost dying for 2 minutes before realizing, that it's done some kind of quiet-quitting routin…

Same - I kept holding and holding. I am now writing this from my grave.

Hillarious :)

Re: 4-7-8 Breathing

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Post by lbj »

cheekyturtles wrote: post #103
lbj wrote: post #26

Easily one of the worst UI's I've seen since 2020. Timing the initial in/exhales is tricky, because the circle contracts, not to its center, but to a nearly invisible (on my screen at least) smaller circle in the middle. No visible counters. After a while, it just says "Hold". No indication that we're done. And I sit there, almost dying for 2 minutes before realizing, that it's done some kind of quiet-quitting routin…

Yes, apologies, the centre circle colour scheme was a terrible choice. I've changed it to something more visible. It looked like network errors were blocking the main thread so to speak, that shouldn't be an issue anymore. I'm glad it's only the worse you have seen since 2020 though, I take that a little as a compliment because frontend design is not my strong point. This is just a fun little thing I made to help me…

I'm glad you're taking my feedback in stride. To be honest I regretted the harsh tone as soon as I hit submit. Can I blame it on oxygen deprivation? :)

Re: 4-7-8 Breathing

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Post by ejoso »

ethersteeds wrote: post #86
mistrial9 wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ok certainly this is a high quality source BUT breathwork should be done with supervision of a practitioner that has some sense. Like swimming (?) this ordinary activity can do great damage in relatively rare situations, or someone trying to do "extreme" practices without guardrails.

Your position is that breathing practice is too dangerous to attempt unsupervised due to risks equivalent to drowning while swimming? While I don't doubt there's a way to breathe so wrong that it has negative effects, I'm sceptical. But I wouldn't think twice about swimming alone, so maybe I live on the edge.

You can most definitely get into trouble with breathing exercises.

Just consider for a second what hyperventilating looks like, or hypo-ventilating. That is one of the things many pranayama and other breathing exercises do.

Restricting &/or increasing oxygen to the body/brain for extended periods of time… what could go wrong?

Re: 4-7-8 Breathing

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Post by xcrunner529 »

mike_ivanov wrote: post #94
spiffytech wrote: post #62

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A breath coach told me that breathing on a timer stresses some people out instead of calming them down. E.g., people who have experienced trauma. Submitting their bodily functions to an outside force's control can be very stressful. Her approach adapted breathing patterns to listen to your body's internal signals for when to breath in and out.

EMDR helped me to get rid of this controlled breathing stress.

What’s EMDR? I think I have this too. I used to end up after headspace usually with a higher heart rate from overthinking and unnatural counting of my breaths.

Re: 4-7-8 Breathing

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Post by xcrunner529 »

vonnik wrote: post #88
mistrial9 wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ok certainly this is a high quality source BUT breathwork should be done with supervision of a practitioner that has some sense. Like swimming (?) this ordinary activity can do great damage in relatively rare situations, or someone trying to do "extreme" practices without guardrails.

I made a simple app inspired by Richie Davidson’s research that teaches people how to change their state with breath. https://breathing-trainer.replit.app/

Very cool! Can I ask if you’re using a UI framework or did you just use tailwind and build the buttons yourself? I like the look.

Re: 4-7-8 Breathing

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Post by gloosx »

TrainedMonkey wrote: post #105
ethersteeds wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your position is that breathing practice is too dangerous to attempt unsupervised due to risks equivalent to drowning while swimming? While I don't doubt there's a way to breathe so wrong that it has negative effects, I'm sceptical. But I wouldn't think twice about swimming alone, so maybe I live on the edge.

While we all practice breathing since birth I do believe that trying some advanced techniques could be dangerous. See https://zeta.blue/physiology for possible effects. People have unique physiological, and mental limits. As a toy example we could imagine someone holding their breath until they pass out and fall.

>we could imagine someone holding their breath until they pass out and fall.

It is not easy to imagine this. Brain have protective mechanisms in place to prevent this. If someone is holding their breath for too long - they start experiencing an immense, primal fear which magnifies tenfold every second. It is close to impossible to consciously bear that fear and continue holding your breath – every other second requires years of practice. You will inhale, if you can. Your body simply wont let you fail or pass out.

Re: 4-7-8 Breathing

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Post by msephton »

vonnik wrote: post #88
mistrial9 wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ok certainly this is a high quality source BUT breathwork should be done with supervision of a practitioner that has some sense. Like swimming (?) this ordinary activity can do great damage in relatively rare situations, or someone trying to do "extreme" practices without guardrails.

I made a simple app inspired by Richie Davidson’s research that teaches people how to change their state with breath. https://breathing-trainer.replit.app/

This is cool. Please add a little bit of code that allows me to save and run it as a web app from my iPhone home screen. Thanks!

Re: 4-7-8 Breathing

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Post by specialist »

I have chronic pain. I have the bad habit of holding my breath.

I've learned some different mindful breathing techniques. Very helpful. While I'm doing them.

But what about the rest of the day? How do I improve my breathing while I'm not paying attention?

My initial goal is consistent 6 breaths per minute. Keep breathing, in & out, in & out.

I'm looking for tools (feedback mechanisms) to monitor my breathing. Especially when I'm holding my breath.

Am noob, so I don't know the sciences. My understanding is that inferring breath from tracking heart rate variability works pretty good during sleep. (FWIW, my Apple Watch 10 says I average 8 bpm at night.)

I'd appreciate any tips, links, recommendations. I'd happily wear a device, just to get started.

Re: 4-7-8 Breathing

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Post by vonnik »

msephton wrote: post #117
vonnik wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I made a simple app inspired by Richie Davidson’s research that teaches people how to change their state with breath. https://breathing-trainer.replit.app/

This is cool. Please add a little bit of code that allows me to save and run it as a web app from my iPhone home screen. Thanks!

Will try do build this for you!

Re: 4-7-8 Breathing

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Post by vonnik »

out-of-ideas wrote: post #107
vonnik wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I made a simple app inspired by Richie Davidson’s research that teaches people how to change their state with breath. https://breathing-trainer.replit.app/

i feel the growing circle could use a fixed area of where it will grow too [and shrink from] edit; but otherwise, seems simple and great design!

Thanks, will work on this.
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