German court sends VW execs to prison over Dieselgate scandal

Post by oblio » Mon, May 26, 2025, 5:19 PM UTC

izacus wrote: post #28

hermitcrab wrote: post #5

Good for Germany, but it is all too rare to see bad corporate behaviour punished like this. Steal £10k from a company, and you will probably go to prison for a long time. Start a company and steal billions from your customers and/or the tax payer, and you will probably get away with it. I believe Iceland was the only country to jail bankers after the 2008 banking disaster. We are still waiting for the British governm…

The question is, whether VW as a German company is now going to end up being beaten by US competitors which could do even more nasty stuff unpunished.

Post by reactordev » Mon, May 26, 2025, 5:19 PM UTC

SoftTalker wrote: post #99

Teever wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That isn't theft. If an employee completes all the work assigned to them and passes performance reviews then what you're describing is a suboptimal use of the employees on the part of the employer.

Real theft by employees is also extremely common. Especially in retail and food service.

Post by exe34 » Mon, May 26, 2025, 5:21 PM UTC

nickff wrote: post #86

_DeadFred_ wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stealing from employees is just normal business in the US. $1.5 billion in stolen wages were recovered for US workers between 2021 and 2023. Imagine how much wasn't recovered. It is often the least able to take action/most in need of every dollar of their income that are stolen from. You can tell a lot about a society by how it treats those with the least power versus those with power. https://www.epi.org/publication…

[flagged]

Post by Teever » Mon, May 26, 2025, 5:22 PM UTC

SoftTalker wrote: post #99

Teever wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That isn't theft. If an employee completes all the work assigned to them and passes performance reviews then what you're describing is a suboptimal use of the employees on the part of the employer.

Real theft by employees is also extremely common. Especially in retail and food service.

Post by pqtyw » Mon, May 26, 2025, 5:24 PM UTC

DocTomoe wrote: post #87

FridayoLeary wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They have kind of abandoned diesel engines, which the whole scandal was based around. It became clear that it would be impossible to create diesel engines which would comply with enviromental standards, which is a shame since they are more efficient and it is consumers who are losing out. They are still one of the main automotive conglomerations today. If anything American car companies are losing the market in Europ…

In all fairness, in the general European perception, with the Cougar, the Puma, and the Focus, Ford is not really seen as an "American" brand. Especially the Focus has virtually nothing to do with what Europeans would consider 'an American car'. It is the quintessential low-to-mid-tier Eurocar: small, cheap, does what it is supposed to do. Compare that to e.g. Chevrolet, which tried - and failed - to get a foothold i…