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Jules: An asynchronous coding agent

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Re: Jules: An asynchronous coding agent

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Post by dmos62 »

diggan wrote: post #16
thorum wrote: post #4

Google’s ability to offer inference for free is a massive competitive advantage vs everyone else: > Is Jules free of charge? > Yes, for now, Jules is free of charge. Jules is in beta and available without payment while we learn from usage. In the future, we expect to introduce pricing, but our focus right now is improving the developer experience. https://jules-documentation.web.app/faq

> Google’s ability to offer inference for free is a massive competitive advantage vs everyone else: Haven't tried Jules myself yet, still playing around with Codex, but personally I don't really care if it's free or not. If it solves my problems better than the others, then I'll use it, otherwise I'll use other things. I'm sure I'm not alone in focusing on how well it works, rather than what it costs (until a certain…

Well, this isn't the first github-based agent. A well-known one is https://app.all-hands.dev/. And, there are great cheap or even free more general agents. So, given that this agent isn't a novelty, price is naturally an immediate talking point.

Re: Jules: An asynchronous coding agent

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Post by EugeneOZ »

miki123211 wrote: post #66
111111101101 wrote: post #43

I was interested. Clicked the try button and just another wait list. When will Google learn that the method that worked so well with Gmail doesn't work any more. There are so many shiny toys to play with now, I will have forgotten about this tomorrow.

The method absolutely does work , but you need loyal advocates who are praising your product to their friends, or preferrably users who are already knocking on your door.

They have a name for these people: Google Developer Experts (in reality: "Evangelists").

https://developers.google.com/community/experts

Re: Jules: An asynchronous coding agent

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Post by jspdown »

> Jules creates a PR of the changes. Approve the PR, merge it to your branch, and publish it on GitHub.

Then, who is testing the change? Even for a dependency update with a good test coverage, I would still test the change. What takes time when uploading dependencies is not the number of line typed but the time it takes to review the new version and test the output.

I'm worried that agent like that will promote bad practice.

Re: Jules: An asynchronous coding agent

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Post by cheriot »

thorum wrote: post #4

Google’s ability to offer inference for free is a massive competitive advantage vs everyone else: > Is Jules free of charge? > Yes, for now, Jules is free of charge. Jules is in beta and available without payment while we learn from usage. In the future, we expect to introduce pricing, but our focus right now is improving the developer experience. https://jules-documentation.web.app/faq

OpenAI lost $5 billion in 2024 and there are claims loses will double in 2025. For now, that's just the cost to play.

Re: Jules: An asynchronous coding agent

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Post by Xmd5a »

SafeDusk wrote: post #92

Glad to see they're joining the game, there is so much work to do here. Have been using Gemini 2.5 pro as an autonomous coding agent for a while because it is free. Their work with AlphaEvolve is also pushing the edge - I did a small write up on AlphaEvolve with agentic workflow here: https://toolkami.com/alphaevolve-toolkami-style/

How? I constantly hit the limit.

Re: Jules: An asynchronous coding agent

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Post by [deleted] »

rvz wrote: post #97

Notice how no-one (up until now) mentioned "Devin" or compared it to any other AI agent? It appears that AI moves so quickly that it was completely forgotten or little to no-one wanted to pay for its original prices. Here's the timeline: 1. Devin was $200 - $500. 2. Then Lovable, Bolt, Github Copilot and Replit reduced their AI Agent prices to $20 - $40 3. Devin was then reduced to $20. 4. Then Cursor and Windsurf AI…

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Re: Jules: An asynchronous coding agent

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Post by sandspar »

85392_school wrote: post #28

> Also, you can get caught up fast. Jules creates an audio summary of the changes. This is an unusual angle. Of course Google can do this because they have the tech behind NotebookLM, but I'm not sure what the value of telling you how your prompt was implemented is.

In a handful of years you'll have the voice/video generation come of age. Also we may have some new form factor like AI necklaces or glasses or something.

Re: Jules: An asynchronous coding agent

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Post by jsemrau »

diggan wrote: post #16
thorum wrote: post #4

Google’s ability to offer inference for free is a massive competitive advantage vs everyone else: > Is Jules free of charge? > Yes, for now, Jules is free of charge. Jules is in beta and available without payment while we learn from usage. In the future, we expect to introduce pricing, but our focus right now is improving the developer experience. https://jules-documentation.web.app/faq

> Google’s ability to offer inference for free is a massive competitive advantage vs everyone else: Haven't tried Jules myself yet, still playing around with Codex, but personally I don't really care if it's free or not. If it solves my problems better than the others, then I'll use it, otherwise I'll use other things. I'm sure I'm not alone in focusing on how well it works, rather than what it costs (until a certain…

Technically speaking,the strategy they execute is called "Loss Leader". As Loss Leader, the company offers a product at a reduced price to attract users, create stickiness, and through that aims to capture the market.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/lossleader.asp

Re: Jules: An asynchronous coding agent

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Post by kristopolous »

diggan wrote: post #16
thorum wrote: post #4

Google’s ability to offer inference for free is a massive competitive advantage vs everyone else: > Is Jules free of charge? > Yes, for now, Jules is free of charge. Jules is in beta and available without payment while we learn from usage. In the future, we expect to introduce pricing, but our focus right now is improving the developer experience. https://jules-documentation.web.app/faq

> Google’s ability to offer inference for free is a massive competitive advantage vs everyone else: Haven't tried Jules myself yet, still playing around with Codex, but personally I don't really care if it's free or not. If it solves my problems better than the others, then I'll use it, otherwise I'll use other things. I'm sure I'm not alone in focusing on how well it works, rather than what it costs (until a certain…

$0 opens up new doors. You use it differently at $0. Fundamentally.

Re: Jules: An asynchronous coding agent

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Post by cess11 »

falcor84 wrote: post #51
Avicebron wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least with writing it's fairly easy to implement on your own with little more than what most people would have available in a rudimentary survival situation. It'll be a tough day when someone goes to sign into their GoogleLife (tm) and find out that they can't get AI access because "precluding conditions agreed to upon signing"

As I see it, the solution to this is to invest in open source. As for a "survival situation", a solar-powered laptop with a locally running LLM would definitely be the first item on my list.

It shouldn't be, because LLM:s can't be trusted in the way literature can. People around you are also going to question why you insist on such a power hungry setup.
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