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Re: Malicious compliance by booking an available meeting room

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post #57

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Execs that have responsibilities appreciate sticking to agendas. But there are a lot of Elon Musks in the world.

Didn't Elon Musk have in his companies that thing of if you have no value to add or receive from a meeting, you can leave it?

How many people do you think skip his meeting?

Re: Malicious compliance by booking an available meeting room

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post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Execs that have responsibilities appreciate sticking to agendas. But there are a lot of Elon Musks in the world.

Didn't Elon Musk have in his companies that thing of if you have no value to add or receive from a meeting, you can leave it?

No idea but someone who claims to work harder than just about everyone else while managing to be on social media all day is hilarious.

Re: Malicious compliance by booking an available meeting room

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> I mean, I’d personally tell them that I wasn’t going to leave the room, but surely it worked a lot?

Maybe it's because I worked in a different office or whatever, but 25 and 50 minute meetings were pretty common and if somebody else scheduled the room it was 100% respected.

It wasn't really considered pedantry or anything, just the basic respect of honoring the commitment of the meeting calendar.

Re: Malicious compliance by booking an available meeting room

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If I was in the room, I'd be relieved. I always found that meetings at large companies dragged on unless there was a forcing factor (like a doorknock) that got someone to bring it to an end.

I've been in 90 minute standups, the 10 minute standup pedants would be my heroes.

Wow, was it actually 90 minutes of standing?

Re: Malicious compliance by booking an available meeting room

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post #39

I saw a funny DefCon video on elevator hacking where one of the emcees tried to patronizingly lure the lecturers off-stage, with shots! This was presumably because they constantly take too long to get their AV set up and wanted to get a headstart. The response was ice cold. "No, this is our time." (Go ahead and stop us.) So it isn't the problem of the people booking the meetings, it's the problem of the people who fo…

> funny DefCon video on elevator hacking

For those wondering, is Deviant Ollam's talk on elevators.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oHf1vD5_b5I

Re: Malicious compliance by booking an available meeting room

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post #59

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> neither side understands the other. Being late is viewed as rude or lacking respect for others by a lot of people. Do people who are habitually late view prompt people as rude for being on time?

I view people who show up too early as rude, as do many others.

I don't get why you are getting downvoted

If an interviewee is half an hour early to a meeting that is rude if they actually expect to start now instead of the scheduled time

Re: Malicious compliance by booking an available meeting room

#117

The backstop forcing function to end meetings is the conference room being booked for the next slot... One of the things I noticed during COVID when everyone was remote was that meetings would never end on time b/c there was no contention for meeting rooms.

I wish they added a feature to Teams where it will just automatically disconnect everyone from the meeting at the scheduled end time.

I've been saved from more than a few Zoom meetings where the free plan ran out after, I think, 40 minutes. Even in at least one organisation that was paying for Zoom - maybe not everyone was set up to host unlimited-length meetings.

Re: Malicious compliance by booking an available meeting room

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Think I'm with Larry on this one. Someone should chair the meeting and there should be some expected outcome (decision) from it within the alotted time. If we're 45 mins in and no closer to an answer it's time to assign some investigative actions and regroup? Malicious compliance in this context is good, because it creates an environment where meetings end and everyone gets to pee?

Re: Malicious compliance by booking an available meeting room

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> When 2:50 rolled around and your meeting was supposed to end, do you think people actually ended the meeting? Noooooo. Absolutely not! At U of M, they solved this problem by having classes officially start 10 minutes after the time they were advertised as. That is, a class listed as being 10-11am was actually 10:10-11am; nobody showed up until 10:10. Sure, technically it's the same thing, but there's a pretty massi…

Fifteen minutes late used to be the academic standard in Germany (and other countries): it was noted by “c.t.” in the timetable, meaning “cum tempore”. When I studied it had already been mostly abolished. Sometimes starting times were explicitly marked “sine tempore”.

Those are strange annotations; it looks like at least one word is missing. They mean "with time" and "without time".
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