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Re: RybbitL Open source Google Analytics replacement

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Post by flashblaze »

openplatypus wrote: post #49
nm980 wrote: post #20

The market for Google Analytics alternatives is crowded. There's Plausible, Ahrefs web analytics, onedollarstats.com, PostHog, Matomo, Unami, Grafana, Microsoft Clarity (free at any scale), and so many others. Despite minor differences these products all compete for the same users (e.g. if someone is a PostHog customer they probably won't be using Ahref web analytics) yet most of these companies offer generous free t…

As a founder in this space, it not as bad as you think. There are niches in this crowded yet broad space. Plausible - good for self-hosting, but their SaaS is very expensive and FOSS vs SaaS offering differ. Ahrefs - they will use your traffic to improve your competitor research, you really should use them cautiously. Matomo - feature rich but can be overwhelming. Posthog - its SaaS is US based so dismissed early by…

I'm using Clarity and was under the impression it was better than GA

Re: RybbitL Open source Google Analytics replacement

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Post by wqtz »

AndrewStephens wrote: post #3

The documentation states that rybbit does not use cookies and is compliant with the GDPR. The first part is true but, looking at the code (very nice to have it available), the tracking is done by IP address, trading one piece of tracking data for another. I realize that this is probably the only way it could work but it is not clear to me that tracking by IP address (even over a single session and shredding the data…

The jury is out on ip address vs GDPR. Hashed IP address is not anonymous, nor is last digit anonymization anonymous.

So, let's not bother with it. I can say all IP address are located in earth and someone would be offended because now we are invading their privacy by knowing which planet they are from. GDPR is not clear on IP address or IP address derived metadata. There is no case law for it, nor acceptable methodology and everyone is speculating about what are the consequences of and it is mostly just opinions from IANALs. GDPR is astrology for non-enterprise companies.

Re: RybbitL Open source Google Analytics replacement

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Post by vivzkestrel »

Apreche wrote: post #9

For me, the best Google analytics replacement has been nothing. Just don’t do analytics at all. Your web site will still work without it. In fact, it will work better!

this is some kinda joke right? analytics are necessary for 10000 reasons

Re: RybbitL Open source Google Analytics replacement

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Post by gregjw »

openplatypus wrote: post #49
nm980 wrote: post #20

The market for Google Analytics alternatives is crowded. There's Plausible, Ahrefs web analytics, onedollarstats.com, PostHog, Matomo, Unami, Grafana, Microsoft Clarity (free at any scale), and so many others. Despite minor differences these products all compete for the same users (e.g. if someone is a PostHog customer they probably won't be using Ahref web analytics) yet most of these companies offer generous free t…

As a founder in this space, it not as bad as you think. There are niches in this crowded yet broad space. Plausible - good for self-hosting, but their SaaS is very expensive and FOSS vs SaaS offering differ. Ahrefs - they will use your traffic to improve your competitor research, you really should use them cautiously. Matomo - feature rich but can be overwhelming. Posthog - its SaaS is US based so dismissed early by…

Surprised no ones talked about Fathom Analytics. My alternative of choice.

Re: RybbitL Open source Google Analytics replacement

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Post by bjelkeman-again »

_heimdall wrote: post #109
tonyhart7 wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ok if that possible, what makes EU agency not doing the same to EU base company then???

Well the EU absolutely could do the same thing. If an EU-based company had servers in the US, I would expect the EU could compel them to hand over data despite where the data is stored.

The EU doesn’t do law enforcement. That is a national concern. But a legal request from one country to another may well happen.

Re: RybbitL Open source Google Analytics replacement

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Post by bill_yang »

newusertoday wrote: post #114

very nice demo. I saw that you are using threejs but when i checked network logs its not downloading it which is great. Are you doing SSR?

Thank you. I am using https://globe.gl/ which wraps three.js. The page realtime page is still pretty slow to load so though.

I'm using Next.js but I'm using all client-side components. The tooling around SPA client side state is just really good so I don't see a huge reason to go full SSR, especially when SEO doesn't matter for the actual app.

Re: RybbitL Open source Google Analytics replacement

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Post by AJMaxwell »

KronisLV wrote: post #6
AndrewStephens wrote: post #3

The documentation states that rybbit does not use cookies and is compliant with the GDPR. The first part is true but, looking at the code (very nice to have it available), the tracking is done by IP address, trading one piece of tracking data for another. I realize that this is probably the only way it could work but it is not clear to me that tracking by IP address (even over a single session and shredding the data…

It doesn't have that much in the way of fancy UI, but I found that Matomo allows you to both choose whether to use cookies / IP or maybe to cut off parts of the IP as well: https://matomo.org/faq/general/configure-privacy-settings-in... People seem to occasionally post cool new solutions, though it doesn't seem like Matomo has gotten that much attention, despite being a pretty strong alternative to Google Analytics (…

I have been using Matomo along side GA4 for a month now. The amount of useful data coming from Matomo, even anonymized, is more expansive and easier to access than GA4. Plus self-hosting was pretty easy and it keeps the data on our servers, which just feels right.

Re: RybbitL Open source Google Analytics replacement

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Post by tonyhart7 »

jillyboel wrote: post #94
_heimdall wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be quite funny to reply to an NSA request by saying "Oh yeah, I have that data and can access it but its on a server in the EU. I can get it, but I won't." I genuinely don't know how they would proceed, but it'd be interesting to watch.

Some not-so-friendly men in suits will show up at your house. Afterwards you will most certainly comply.

I mean if you can even refuse that, this is national agency we talking about

They can physically tap global internet cable just because they can

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