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Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

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Post by cpursley »

almostgotcaught wrote: post #96
stingraycharles wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gatorade to water the plants? Not a far fetch from injecting bleach to cure Covid.

And removing fluoride from the water

Why does American drinking water need fluoride - for the few seconds people brush their teeth? Other developed nations seem to do get by just fine without it (i.e, most of Europe). Does modern tooth paste not contain the components for proper cleaning? I feel like I'm missing something here, because I don't swallow my tooth paste but I drink my tap water. But if fluoride is fine in water that we drink, why not just add all the other vital chemicals to the tap water that our bodies crave, like soma? Because it really smells like peoples opposition to this is not science-based but emotion-based (i.e., anti-RFK and Trump admin).

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Post by brookst »

earthcreed wrote: post #92
habosa wrote: post #77

The MAGA people attacking Hollywood is such a big mistake. Yes I know the average celebrity doesn’t share their views, but that doesn’t change the fact that Hollywood projects American culture around the world in a way that the government could never do itself. Movies and music made here are so often cited as the reason why young people around the world idealize America and want to emulate us (buy our clothes, speak…

You do understand this is a move to protect Hollywood, Right? It is for the very reasons you cited.

By “protect” you mean “roll back to the 1950’s”, righ? Because Hollywood today was doing quite well and I don’t think I’ve heard a single industry source asking for this.

IMO the other shoe here is stronger content restrictions and more government control of what gets made. Easier to do that with US productions, hence the attempt to make everything distributed in the US a US production.

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Post by timdiggerm »

Aeolun wrote: post #79
pluc wrote: post #5

Defund education then defund culture. Sounds exactly like America First/America Only. Next up is propaganda and filling Americans' minds with only what he wants you to know. He can flood the media as he's been flooding the government, all the pieces are in play. Still nobody putting up a meaningful fight. Your window is closing.

Look to Idiocracy for a documentary of what happens if this keeps going unchecked?

You may have missed that Idiocracy is a pro-eugenics film, in which the populace got stupider by way of being fecund. It's not about this problem, really.

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Post by beardyw »

ur-whale wrote: post #25
misja111 wrote: post #16

Was the USA's movie industry really under threat from abroad? In my local cinema here in Europe the great majority of popular movies is American .. To me this move seems more a kind of cultural censorship. Similar to how many foreign movies can't be shown in Russia or China.

That's not what this is about. Most American movies are shot outside of the US these days because among other factors Hollywood unions have made it way more expensive to shoot in the US.

So movie tickets go up either way.

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Post by rapind »

pluc wrote: post #5

Defund education then defund culture. Sounds exactly like America First/America Only. Next up is propaganda and filling Americans' minds with only what he wants you to know. He can flood the media as he's been flooding the government, all the pieces are in play. Still nobody putting up a meaningful fight. Your window is closing.

While I'm certainly no where even adjacent to a Trump supporter, the idea of preventing studios (rich people) from sidestepping local unions (working people), plus the crazy tax incentives we give them by producing their movies up here in Canada isn't as polarizing an idea as you think.

If the sky is falling on everything he does, and you're wrong some of the time, then people will stop listening. There's plenty that this administration has done that is objectively horrible.

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Post by Symbiote »

seydor wrote: post #11

it s impressive that , despite the US deciding to self-implode there is nobody willing to step in to compete for their place. It's as if the species has culturally peaked after its demographic peak. Europe is already in retirement and US seems to follow. Maybe we'll see African dynamism in a few decades

Isn't this because Europe stepped up over the last 20 years and now has an industry making "American" films here?

Look at the list of films made at Pinewood Studios in England, there are plenty of films I'd consider American: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_productions_filmed_at_...

(I'm sure there are other examples, this is just the studio I'm familiar with.)

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Post by lm28469 »

solumunus wrote: post #7
pluc wrote: post #5

Defund education then defund culture. Sounds exactly like America First/America Only. Next up is propaganda and filling Americans' minds with only what he wants you to know. He can flood the media as he's been flooding the government, all the pieces are in play. Still nobody putting up a meaningful fight. Your window is closing.

What would a meaningful fight look like?

idk man last time France raised the gas price by like 10% people were in the streets every weekend for a year, often blocking highways, warehouses, at its peak ~3 million people were in the streets, they got so close to Macron's castle he had his helicopter prepared to flee the capital

It ended up with 11 deaths, thousands of injured, thousands of people were arrested hundreds went to jail. Look at Serbia, Greece, damn even Turkey seems to put a better fight lol

https://www.ledauphine.com/france-monde/2018/12/13/gilets-ja...

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Post by croes »

mk89 wrote: post #102
stingraycharles wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s about the country it’s produced in, not the country it’s recorded in, though?

Then I misunderstood, I guess... Why would it be more expensive to produce it in the US, then? I thought one of the reasons for making the movie "abroad" was to get some subsidies from other countries "if you film it here", kind of.

The US are expensive.

You can build bigger sets for the same money in a country in eastern Europe.

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Post by misja111 »

ur-whale wrote: post #25
misja111 wrote: post #16

Was the USA's movie industry really under threat from abroad? In my local cinema here in Europe the great majority of popular movies is American .. To me this move seems more a kind of cultural censorship. Similar to how many foreign movies can't be shown in Russia or China.

That's not what this is about. Most American movies are shot outside of the US these days because among other factors Hollywood unions have made it way more expensive to shoot in the US.

Well these were the words from the horse's mouth:

“This is a concerted effort by other Nations and, therefore, a National Security threat,” Trump said in the Truth Social post. “It is, in addition to everything else, messaging and propaganda!”

To me this seems to motivate the tariffs as a battle against foreign propaganda.

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