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Pin is 1234.
"That's amazing! I've got the same combination on my luggage!"
Looks at each other disapprovingly.
(It was 1-2-3-4-5.)
Mike Waltz Accidentally Reveals App Govt Uses to Archive Signal Messages
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Re: Mike Waltz Accidentally Reveals App Govt Uses to Archive Signal Messages
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Kissinger and Rice are war criminals who should have gone to jail for the rest of their respective lives. Trump’s guy can’t even manage that level of evil.
War criminals or not, you can’t deny they were smart. Unlike current administration.
Intelligence isn't a respectable quality in the face of illegal (allegedly), unethical, and/or immoral behavior.
Kissinger shared culpability for what happened in Cambodia, Laos, and Vietnam.
Rice shares culpability for what happened in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Hegseth may still participate in war crimes regardless of being a dim bulb. One can only hope his disability makes him less effective in causing harm deliberately, but he still may cause great harm inadvertently as well.
America needs to acknowledge that it has a multitiered system of selective criminal prosecution where some people get away with crimes because of who they are.
Re: Mike Waltz Accidentally Reveals App Govt Uses to Archive Signal Messages
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Great motivated thinking, but wrong. It would appear they're using this app now , post-incident, because they got in trouble. (And having messages with Vance, Gabbard, etc. be visible to the press pool camera is... not a great look for the guy who accidentally added a reporter.) https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/15/us/politics/cia-director-... > All of the messages from a leaked group chat have been deleted from the ph…
Those are just accusations from a 3rd party agency. They have no way of knowing if Ratcliffe archived the messages before deleting. Signal has been approved since the Biden admin. It was most likely already distributed with the Telemessage feature.
> Signal has been approved since the Biden admin. It was most likely already distributed with the Telemessage feature.
How do you know this? Also I would not consider this a “feature”. We should assume they’re different apps, insofar as Telemessage can add whatever they please to the source
Re: Mike Waltz Accidentally Reveals App Govt Uses to Archive Signal Messages
#114>>> overnment agencies have paid for versions of encrypted messaging apps that also have archive abilities before. In 2021, Customs and Border Protection (CBP) paid encrypted app company Wickr $700,000. This seems like a perfect use case to support Signal. Have large, corporate or govt entities, pay for a custom fork of the app, built by the app developers themselves. Why is telemessage getting the money ? Does the S…
Wickr is owned by AWS, and only has a government/enterprise product now. The personal version has been discontinued.
Pardon my ignorance here, does this mean that governments approach Wickr and buy licences to use their encrypted messenger? If so, what does Wickr do better than other encrypted messenger apps?
Re: Mike Waltz Accidentally Reveals App Govt Uses to Archive Signal Messages
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Crikey that's terrifying. Not even a US company either.
Telemessage got bought out by Smarsh a couple years ago. (Which several other commenters are saying is a US company) Their service has gone way downhill since. Source: use them for several of my clients.
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Re: Mike Waltz Accidentally Reveals App Govt Uses to Archive Signal Messages
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Additional hilarity provided by their name being one letter different from the latinisation of a Soviet spy agency / Bond supervillain organization.
It looks like it was originally meant as a reference to the username of the founder (Stephen Marsh).
Seems like an odd choice of name from an apparently low attack surface, cybersecurity aware company...
Re: Mike Waltz Accidentally Reveals App Govt Uses to Archive Signal Messages
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Wickr is owned by AWS, and only has a government/enterprise product now. The personal version has been discontinued.
Pardon my ignorance here, does this mean that governments approach Wickr and buy licences to use their encrypted messenger? If so, what does Wickr do better than other encrypted messenger apps?
In short, paperwork.
Government has a ton of policy requirements around data retention, audit logging, where their data is stored, who can access it etc, as well as technical requirements for things like encryption algorithms. They also have a requirement to operate on isolated networks.
It is difficult for an ordinary consumer messaging app to meet these requirements. Matrix is really the only competitor.
Re: Mike Waltz Accidentally Reveals App Govt Uses to Archive Signal Messages
#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
Pardon my ignorance here, does this mean that governments approach Wickr and buy licences to use their encrypted messenger? If so, what does Wickr do better than other encrypted messenger apps?
In short, paperwork. Government has a ton of policy requirements around data retention, audit logging, where their data is stored, who can access it etc, as well as technical requirements for things like encryption algorithms. They also have a requirement to operate on isolated networks. It is difficult for an ordinary consumer messaging app to meet these requirements. Matrix is really the only competitor.
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Re: Mike Waltz Accidentally Reveals App Govt Uses to Archive Signal Messages
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> I feel that the Signal folks are worth trusting. The MobileCoin integration and the long standing refusal to support a way to use the messenger without using a phone number (or a smartphone at all) make me wary. To me they sit pretty much on the same level of trust as Meta's WhatsApp, which is a sad thing to have to conclude.
This. Session does desktop and mobile cheerfully without leaving metadata enabling government real-time location tracking.
And cheerfuly does bunch of other things https://soatok.blog/2025/01/14/dont-use-session-signal-fork/
Re: Mike Waltz Accidentally Reveals App Govt Uses to Archive Signal Messages
#120So is signal safe or not?
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