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You know what the biggest problem with pushing all-things-Al is? Wrong direction. I want Al to do my laundry and dishes so that I can do art and writing, not for Al to do my art and writing so that I can do my laundry and dishes. - Joanna Maciejewska You could add music

Nothing stops you from doing art and writing, just like nothing is stopping someone today from riding a horse, running a marathon or rowing a boat.

Unless of course you have bills to pay.

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

#112

You know what the biggest problem with pushing all-things-Al is? Wrong direction. I want Al to do my laundry and dishes so that I can do art and writing, not for Al to do my art and writing so that I can do my laundry and dishes. - Joanna Maciejewska You could add music

AI is going to do jobs like radiologists, so humans can work at McDonald's or be bartenders! I mean, the pouring drinks part of it, the conversational skills of an AI bartender will be superior to those of humans!

If only, their work is already taken by robots.

https://rbtx.com/en-US/solutions/igus-robot-arm-bartender-co...

https://smyze.com/en/discover/

https://www.kuka.com/en-de/industries/solutions-database/202...

Really we are going into a dystopian society, but hey AI can complete my code, hurray!

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

#113
post #97

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I keep coming back to this thought. Maybe it’s how I was raised, but knowing that I’m doing something useful to other people / humanity is the entire point. When a machine can do everything better than we can, then what do we derive meaning from? I usually get out of the existential dread by thinking that we’re still some time away from the issue, and that there will still be some pursuits left, like space colonizati…

We can join the Amish and reject all technology based on AI. There may be a war against Big Tech. Terrorist attacks on data centers and robot factories.

The technologists have no qualms about encroachment on your space.

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

#114

You know what the biggest problem with pushing all-things-Al is? Wrong direction. I want Al to do my laundry and dishes so that I can do art and writing, not for Al to do my art and writing so that I can do my laundry and dishes. - Joanna Maciejewska You could add music

Well you know, all those fun and creative parts in software engineering has been taken over by vibe coding and now humans are supposed to do only tedious works, so probably the same thing applies here.

Perhaps much of what humans be doing in this regard is - validation, and the physical work left. But we're not there yet, of course. Vibe coding takes a lot of manual labor, and it's nowhere near for the actually complex tasks such as... multi-part CTEs munching gigs of spatial-temporal data.

Speaking of AI in music - well, perhaps many will welcome some tools when you have to:

- clear hissing - process levels in tedious clearing - auto-removal of aaah, oooh, eeerrmm and similar - podcast restoration, etc.

but of course, nobody wants darn model singing in the mornings, and composers definitely don't need anyone to make up melodies, drum rolls, or bass lines for them.

I see deepmind advance their offering, still I find it difficult to imagine any of my producer friends embracing such abomination, and particularly giving it is a remix tool before all else, and not a composition tool. People love details the same way a painter loves details.... dilettantes think all this irrelevant, they really can't be wrong more.

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I'm not sure how this contradicts what they said. AI would likely lower the number of paid opportunities. Additionally, art requires practice. Sure, some "lower-tier" artists may produce work that AI could replace without anyone noticing. But by removing that step, we risk having fewer truly great artists emerging.

I will also be honest, if you expect to live off your art, you are doing it wrong.

You may not be able to be rich, but at least until recently it was possible to make a living and not be homeless/require patronage.

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I keep coming back to this thought. Maybe it’s how I was raised, but knowing that I’m doing something useful to other people / humanity is the entire point. When a machine can do everything better than we can, then what do we derive meaning from? I usually get out of the existential dread by thinking that we’re still some time away from the issue, and that there will still be some pursuits left, like space colonizati…

We can join the Amish and reject all technology based on AI. There may be a war against Big Tech. Terrorist attacks on data centers and robot factories.

Someone has been watching Netflix.

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

#117

You know what the biggest problem with pushing all-things-Al is? Wrong direction. I want Al to do my laundry and dishes so that I can do art and writing, not for Al to do my art and writing so that I can do my laundry and dishes. - Joanna Maciejewska You could add music

I'm getting a little tired of hearing this quote at this point. What about humoring the opposite? I want AI to automate art so I can spend more time doing dishes and doing laundry. Dishes and laundry are purely analog human experiences. Art, at this point, is essentially digital, and digital is the domain of machines so we can let machines do that now.

You don't need AI for that. Just come to my house, I can allow you to spend time in analog human experiences like dishes and laundry for free. And I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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post #35

You know what the biggest problem with pushing all-things-Al is? Wrong direction. I want Al to do my laundry and dishes so that I can do art and writing, not for Al to do my art and writing so that I can do my laundry and dishes. - Joanna Maciejewska You could add music

The last 5 years have been a supersized lesson in Moravec’s paradox [1]. More people need to hear about this: the tech world doesn’t have some kind of conspiracy against the creative class, it literally is the lowest hanging fruit as predicted 30 years ago. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moravec%27s_paradox

Many keep forgetting programming is also creative work, but yeah whatever.

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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But that's a senseless endeavour. We create art not for money, but for fun and expression.

You forgot the most important and most common use of art: viewing and listening. AI can already produce good music, good images. At least I found some that I liked. And AI doesn't stop you from making art and having fun doing so.

The entire point of art is about human experience. If we’re really going to automate humans out of art (I don’t believe we will), and you really just want to look at some AI pictures that you like, why stop there? Why don’t we just go straight to the brain stem and have AI-administered doses of dopamine?

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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I'm getting a little tired of hearing this quote at this point. What about humoring the opposite? I want AI to automate art so I can spend more time doing dishes and doing laundry. Dishes and laundry are purely analog human experiences. Art, at this point, is essentially digital, and digital is the domain of machines so we can let machines do that now.

> Art, at this point, is essentially digital Are you serious with this?

"essentially" is, regrettably, a misplaced word. I meant "basically" or "generally".

But if the art is expressed as a sequence of bytes/tokens (ex. a song on spotify, a movie on amazon prime, a png, etc.), then it is by definition digital. I think it's reasonable to assume this is how most art is produced and consumed today.

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