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Re: arXiv moving from Cornell servers to Google Cloud

#112
Odd but related question if anyone knows:

Are all preprints on arXiv public?

Or is there actually a private unlisted preprint queue?

From behavior I've observed, I'm guessing maybe authors have the ability to hide papers and send private invites for select peer-review?

Re: arXiv moving from Cornell servers to Google Cloud

#113

Another piece of (effectively) public infrastructure coming under the control of the mega-corporations, and Alphabet specifically.

Networking and power infrastructure are "under the control of" large corporations also. Without them, Arxiv doesn't exist.

Re: arXiv moving from Cornell servers to Google Cloud

#114
post #112

Odd but related question if anyone knows: Are all preprints on arXiv public? Or is there actually a private unlisted preprint queue? From behavior I've observed, I'm guessing maybe authors have the ability to hide papers and send private invites for select peer-review?

Papers can be held my moderators, but as an author when you post you don't have the ability to hold or hide your paper.

Postings go up once a day as a batch, so you could wait 24ish hours to see your paper appear, longer if your posting is just before the weekend.

Re: arXiv moving from Cornell servers to Google Cloud

#116

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I don't think it is that. I work for an org with close ties to arXiv, and just like us they are getting a lot more demand due to AI crawling. As a primary source of information there is a lot of traffic. They do have technical issues from time to time due to this demand, and I think their stability is just due to the exceptional amount of effort they take to keep it going. They are also getting more submissions and i…

GC seems like a bad choice to me. The GC CLI and tools aren’t terrible, but their services in-general have historically been not been friendly to use and their support involves average documentation and humans that talk at users instead of serve them. Google as a company is not what it was, either. A lot of their funding was driven from advertising, and between social media, streaming, and LLMs, that seems like it ma…

Isn't Azure noticeably more expensive than AWS?

Re: arXiv moving from Cornell servers to Google Cloud

#117
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Yea but GCP was state of the art 20 years ago, php+perl was already crufty

So state of the art it wasn't even available yet (preview launch was in 2008).

Sounds about right. I remember hearing about it first in a talk being given by Doug Crockford at my university around that time. It blew my mind. I thought it was like gcc for the Internet. It's kind of wild that in the interim we have experienced the complete rise and fall of mongodb, node.js, even today the react paradigm are all expressions of this tiny little functional scripting language..

Re: arXiv moving from Cornell servers to Google Cloud

#118
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It may be that it was time for the hardware that was previously running Arxiv to be retired and this is just another Capex -> Opex decision being made by so many tech companies. I'd like to know if GCP is covering part of the bill? Or will Cornell be paying all of it? The new architecture smells of "[GCP] will pay/credit all of these new services if you agree to let one of our architects work with you". If GCP is hel…

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Re: arXiv moving from Cornell servers to Google Cloud

#119
post #87

Fantastic. Now countries like Iran are going to be blocked. Internet is not a public network anymore It is owned by mostly American cooperation and they will decide what content to show and which group of people can access it.

Is it not ideal to block Iran?

Why should the 90 million people in Iran not have easy access to scientific knowledge?

Re: arXiv moving from Cornell servers to Google Cloud

#120
post #96

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I'm torn on flagging comments that throw out "enshittification". Do you feel that this stands in for actual thought?

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I'm going to fling that response right back at you. "Enshittification" is not a generic term for "update I don't like", it describes a specific dynamic that happens when a company inserts itself as a middleman into a two-sided market. arXiv could get worse in other ways, but enshittification in particular can't happen to it, that's a category error.

I think you should offer better thoughts instead of mad-libbing in buzzwords where they don't apply. Enshittification is actually a useful concept, and I don't want it to go the way of "FUD", which had a similar trajectory in the later years of Slashdot where people just reduced it to a useless catch-all phrase whenever Microsoft said anything about anything.

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