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So even if you have a plus account, there will be a charge for the API use? I mean I kind of get it, but it does seem like they are almost penalizing people who could code in the browser with the canvas feature but prefer to use a terminal. Do I have that right?
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I think it depends a lot on how you value your time. I'm personally willing to spend hundreds or thousands per month happily if it saves me enough hours. I'd estimate that if I were to do consulting, I'd likely be charging in the $150-250 per hour range, so by my math, it's pretty easy to justify any tools that save me even a few hours per month.
Are you still working 40 hours a week? If so, what's the difference?
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I asked the same question for Anthropic's version of this. Why is all of this in JS?
JS is web's (and "hip" developer's) python, and in many ways it is better. Also the tooling is getting a lot better (libraries, typescript, bundling, packaging, performance). One thing I wonder that could be cool: when Bun has sufficient NodeJS compatibility the should ship bun --compile versions so you dont need node/npm on the system. Then it's arguably a, "why not JS?"
Right but is it worth having to write JS?
/s (kinda)
Sorry for being a grumpy old man, but I don't have npm on my machine and I never will. It's a bit frustrating to see more and more CLI tools depending on it.
I asked the same question for Anthropic's version of this. Why is all of this in JS?
Cool to see more interesting terminal based options! Looking forward to trying this out. I've been working on something related—Plandex[1], an open source AI coding agent that is particularly focused on large projects and complex tasks. I launched the v2 a few weeks ago and it is now running well. In terms of how to place it in the landscape, it’s more agentic than aider, more configurable and tightly controlled than…
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Coding agents use extreme numbers of tokens, you’d be getting rate limited effectively immediately. A typical small-medium PR with Claude Code for me is ~$10-15 of API credits.
I've ended up with $5K+ in a month using sonnet 3.7, had to dial it back. I'm much happier with gemini 2.5 pro right now for high performance at a much more reasonable cost (primarily using with RA.Aid, but I've tried it with Windsurf, cline, and roo.)
Sorry for being a grumpy old man, but I don't have npm on my machine and I never will. It's a bit frustrating to see more and more CLI tools depending on it.
Here is the prompt template, in case you're interested: const prefix = `You are operating as and within the Codex CLI, a terminal-based agentic coding assistant built by OpenAI. It wraps OpenAI models to enable natural language interaction with a local codebase. You are expected to be precise, safe, and helpful. You can: - Receive user prompts, project context, and files. - Stream responses and emit function calls (e…
> - Check if you accidentally add copyright or license headers. If so, remove them. is interesting