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Post by MattDemers »

Red_Tarsius wrote: post #88

I feel too many people conflate /pol/ with the whole website. I enjoyed browsing through sfw boards like /tg/ (tabletop media), /ck/ (cooking) and /fit/ (fitness). I had long discussions about the SW sequels on /tv/ back in 2015-19. The readership was surprisingly diverse and the anonymity lead users to provide more focused replies. With bodybuilding.com gone, the blue boards felt like the last bastion of the old int…

I think people also don't acknowledge how much terminology, slang and other culture originate and spread there. When it breaches into Twitter (usually through funposters) people kind of ignore the unsavoury origin and rewrite the history. The anonymous nature kind of provides that petri dish of "if it's strong culture, it'll survive or be modified."

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Post by howmayiannoyyou »

VectorLock wrote: post #54
jmyeet wrote: post #42

4chan will be studied for years for its role in alt-right radicalization as well as being a baroemeter for young male discontent. For example, QAnon started on 4chan (I believe as a joke?) [1]. Nowadays a lot of 4chan users and traffic have since migrated to Twitter for pretty obvious reasons. Pseudo-intellectual racism has a lot of roots in 4chan (eg the popularity of Julius Evola [2]) that's deeply tied to "trad" c…

I would be 0% surprised to see Stephen Miller's information in this leak.

If you're looking for malign influence on 4chan - look outside the US. Anyone on /pol/ and /k/ after Oct 7th understands clearly who has been influencing if not controlling the site.

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Post by snvzz »

trallnag wrote: post #14

Jannies had it coming tbh. They were certainly tightening the rope when it came to free speech in the last few years

Blaming the victims is not cool.

Particularly, when these are good people who put a lot of effort into keeping 4chan a pleasant community, by e.g. removing hate speech and CSAM, as well as banning offenders.

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Post by tsumnia »

vlovich123 wrote: post #46
ArinaS wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think anything before Frutiger Aero became popular (and it didn't in 2003) can be considered "early" Internet.

I hope you realize the irony of picking an arbitrary OS theme, something that has no correlation to the Internet in any way, as a meaningful point in the history of the Internet. As I said it’s all arbitrary. I might pick the time around Google’s founding as the early Internet, others might pick Yahoo, others might pick anything before eternal September.

It's clearly when AOL started offering a monthly subscription for unlimited Internet usage.

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Post by jsheard »

technion wrote: post #79
Macha wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder how long it's been since that was true. I think that era passed when most small businesses and individuals moved from self hosting to SaaS.

Nearly every website developer servicing small business builds a WordPress site and sets it up on a hosting company's cPanel install with phpmyadmin running by default.

I guess those installs are the ones the Wordpress vuln scanners are looking for when they spam my server with /wp-admin/ requests.

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Post by dfxm12 »

mattlondon wrote: post #77
CamelCaseName wrote: post #2

If you lamented the disappearance of the "old internet", well, this was a part of it, and now it may be gone too. The title is also a fair bit understated. They're leaking the moderators home addresses and work contact info (for admins, who are(were?) paid moderators)

I'd hardly call it the "old internet". It is very niche, and has not been around that long really - like what 2003 or something? Nothing compared to e.g. Geocities which was early-mid 90s IIRC which I'd argue had more relevance to people than 4chan.

"Old Internet" doesn't have a very defined meaning, but I think it has more to do with design and functionality than a hard date. While I don't think relevance matters, 4chan is much more relevant than you think. Having a niche is part of the old Internet. Websites used to be niche, but deep, instead of websites like Wikipedia, which are broad and shallow (compare the Castlevania dungeon [0] to the Wikipedia article for Castlevania, for example). Then compare 4chan's limited number of boards with reddit's endless subs. 4chan's design is early web 2.0, doesn't require you create an account, allows (pseudo) anonymous posting, content is mostly unfiltered, unmonetized, free & thought of as ephemeral, etc.

0 - https://castlevaniadungeon.net/dungeon.html

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Post by hollerith »

vlovich123 wrote: post #94
rob wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're trying to argue that 2003 isn't the early Internet. Seems like you're trying to have your "Ackchyually..." moment right now because you didn't know 4chan existed.

No, I’m saying the Internet was already in mass adoption for the preceding decade. Talk to old timers and they’ll reminisce that the early days of the internet were great until Eternal September in 93. Others will reminisce about the days of BBS. I’m saying “early internet” is a relative term that has more to do with the person interpreting than any objective definition.

I put the start of the mainstreaming of the internet in July 1993, the month a cartoon was published in the New Yorker captioned, "On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Internet,_nobody_knows_...

Before then, it was quite unusual to see coverage of the internet by the mainstream press (and what coverage I saw took a theoretical or "far" view, i.e., as part of a discussion of governmental policy). After then, coverage exploded.

This is an American perspective: the timing was probably different in other countries.

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Post by dialup_sounds »

a0123 wrote: post #55
robobro wrote: post #6

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The initial leaker is most likely not the same parties as the ones tying email addresses and usernames to people's "real identities", if you look at the thread where the leak was announced. Say what you will about 4chan but I am concerned for the team managing it - them and their close ones are certainly going to be exposed to a whole lot of viciousness soon :(

Damn, the culture they have bred and actively maintained is now going to be turned against them? It might end up making them more sympathetic people on the long term. They might realise the seriousness of what they have done to others.

"The culture" of 4chan varies from board to board and even thread to thread.

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Post by rasengan »

TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #67
sznio wrote: post #44

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the mechanics are old there's no other online community i know of that still allows fully anonymous posting the culture changed, but the "environment" causing the culture there to be the way it is still same as the original. the bump/delete mechanics work well to promote the most controversial, most engaging content, without any advanced statistics or ML. despite being a shitty place, i don't feel advertised to, spie…

Posting on 4chan just kept becoming increasingly user hostile, especially for casual users, you had to be really determined to post something: posts started requiring 24 hour email verification, and after that you had to wait ~10 minutes before being allowed to post, and finally you had to complete a nearly impossible captcha which could lock you out from posting for an undetermined amount of time just for failing. I…

That’s true. The captcha is impossible without the 4chan pass.

soj.ooO [1] which is similar on the other hand doesn’t have the captcha.

[1] https://soj.ooO

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