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Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by ipaddr »

gxs wrote: post #88
fumufumufumu wrote: post #85

What I gather from this is few if any non-software devs use Kagi 8 of the top 10 "raised" sites are software dev sites and with #6 being MDN I'm guessing it's not just any software devs, is web developers specifically that use Kagi. Am I drawing the wrong conclusion? Does that mean Kagi's days are numbered? What would it take for them to get enough non-web-devs that the top 10 raised looked more representative of the…

Not every business sets out to be the next Google Loyal Kagi customer here, based on their posts and in my dealings with them, they are doing their thing and doing well They are focused on privacy, do a great job of it, and their AI assistant is top notch (highly recommend you take a look, can choose from many models and swap out responses instantly, not even getting into the awesome search features) Not commenting o…

I hear a lot of good things about kagi but privacy isn't one. They need to record every search and connect it to your account. Duckduckgo is more known for privacy and searches well through tor.

Here are the stats: https://kagi.com/stats

How many are paid vs trial accounts?

We know family doesn't offer a trial nor teams.

126 teams x 5 or 6 members = 1,000 accounts at 10 per day 10k

4500 family plans: most will take the 20 a month plan 100k

45000 individuals lets say they are all paid most on the 5 dollar plans lets assume on average 6.50 is earned 300k

Then you have orion+ members at 2000 giving an extra $15 per account. 30k

They probably make 450k a month

They have 19 employees on linkedin and they are listed at under 50 everywhere else. Lets give them 25 employees at 100k average salary which would be 2.5 million in salaries which might be low.

Add on costs to actually run the website (paid search, servers, office costs) which hopefully cost less than 3.5 million.. the rest is profit.

I'd say they are doing well enough. My average of 5/6 per team might be much higher if they have a few 100+ sized teams. I think the mode would be 5/6 regardless of the average.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by Semaphor »

fumufumufumu wrote: post #85

What I gather from this is few if any non-software devs use Kagi 8 of the top 10 "raised" sites are software dev sites and with #6 being MDN I'm guessing it's not just any software devs, is web developers specifically that use Kagi. Am I drawing the wrong conclusion? Does that mean Kagi's days are numbered? What would it take for them to get enough non-web-devs that the top 10 raised looked more representative of the…

> I'm guessing it's not just any software devs, is web developers specifically that use Kagi.

I do both, and I have MDN pinned. The thing is, if I search for C#, Python, Java, I get great results on any search engine. If I search for web stuff, I get tons of crap and mediocrity. MDN is almost always what I want instead of some other stuff.

Regarding "days numbered", I agree with the gist of the other replies ;)

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by timokoesters »

ipaddr wrote: post #111
gxs wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not every business sets out to be the next Google Loyal Kagi customer here, based on their posts and in my dealings with them, they are doing their thing and doing well They are focused on privacy, do a great job of it, and their AI assistant is top notch (highly recommend you take a look, can choose from many models and swap out responses instantly, not even getting into the awesome search features) Not commenting o…

I hear a lot of good things about kagi but privacy isn't one. They need to record every search and connect it to your account. Duckduckgo is more known for privacy and searches well through tor. Here are the stats: https://kagi.com/stats How many are paid vs trial accounts? We know family doesn't offer a trial nor teams. 126 teams x 5 or 6 members = 1,000 accounts at 10 per day 10k 4500 family plans: most will take t…

https://help.kagi.com/kagi/privacy/privacy-pass.html

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by almyk »

ipaddr wrote: post #111
gxs wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not every business sets out to be the next Google Loyal Kagi customer here, based on their posts and in my dealings with them, they are doing their thing and doing well They are focused on privacy, do a great job of it, and their AI assistant is top notch (highly recommend you take a look, can choose from many models and swap out responses instantly, not even getting into the awesome search features) Not commenting o…

I hear a lot of good things about kagi but privacy isn't one. They need to record every search and connect it to your account. Duckduckgo is more known for privacy and searches well through tor. Here are the stats: https://kagi.com/stats How many are paid vs trial accounts? We know family doesn't offer a trial nor teams. 126 teams x 5 or 6 members = 1,000 accounts at 10 per day 10k 4500 family plans: most will take t…

> I hear a lot of good things about kagi but privacy isn't one. They need to record every search and connect it to your account.

Looking at their privacy policy they state the following:

> We may store web requests made by user browser temporarily, with strict retention periods, for debugging purposes, and in a manner that they are not linked to an account.

https://kagi.com/privacy#server-data

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by Semaphor »

ipaddr wrote: post #111
gxs wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not every business sets out to be the next Google Loyal Kagi customer here, based on their posts and in my dealings with them, they are doing their thing and doing well They are focused on privacy, do a great job of it, and their AI assistant is top notch (highly recommend you take a look, can choose from many models and swap out responses instantly, not even getting into the awesome search features) Not commenting o…

I hear a lot of good things about kagi but privacy isn't one. They need to record every search and connect it to your account. Duckduckgo is more known for privacy and searches well through tor. Here are the stats: https://kagi.com/stats How many are paid vs trial accounts? We know family doesn't offer a trial nor teams. 126 teams x 5 or 6 members = 1,000 accounts at 10 per day 10k 4500 family plans: most will take t…

> I hear a lot of good things about kagi but privacy isn't one.

I don’t use it, but the Privacy Pass [0] thing should actually make it great for privacy if you care more about that than personalization.

[0]: https://blog.kagi.com/kagi-privacy-pass

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by [deleted] »

ipaddr wrote: post #111
gxs wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not every business sets out to be the next Google Loyal Kagi customer here, based on their posts and in my dealings with them, they are doing their thing and doing well They are focused on privacy, do a great job of it, and their AI assistant is top notch (highly recommend you take a look, can choose from many models and swap out responses instantly, not even getting into the awesome search features) Not commenting o…

I hear a lot of good things about kagi but privacy isn't one. They need to record every search and connect it to your account. Duckduckgo is more known for privacy and searches well through tor. Here are the stats: https://kagi.com/stats How many are paid vs trial accounts? We know family doesn't offer a trial nor teams. 126 teams x 5 or 6 members = 1,000 accounts at 10 per day 10k 4500 family plans: most will take t…

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Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by computer23 »

Sxubas wrote: post #42

Why is healthline so high on the block/lower list? (Excluding Pinterest) IMO I like the fact that they link sources to their claims, which is very rare on the current web. I think of it as a somewhat trustable source of information. Am I wrong?

Healthline is not a trustworthy site- See Wikipedia discussion: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/N...?

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by Semaphor »

Sxubas wrote: post #42

Why is healthline so high on the block/lower list? (Excluding Pinterest) IMO I like the fact that they link sources to their claims, which is very rare on the current web. I think of it as a somewhat trustable source of information. Am I wrong?

I have it blocked because I had them show up with auto generated (and, obviously, wrong) AI slop results. Anything like that gets an instant block.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by Semaphor »

Brajeshwar wrote: post #40
MostlyStable wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They only have 43,000 members (stat from the same page), so that's 20 queries a day per member, which doesn't seem that crazy.

So, only us HN members are members of Kagi.

You are (maybe) joking, but I’d guess there’s an extremely high overlap between HN users and Kagi users. I converted someone from a metal discord I’m in to Kagi with a promo gift last year, and he’s also the only HN user on the server ;)
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