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DJ With Apple Music launches to enable subscribers to mix their own sets

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Re: DJ With Apple Music launches to enable subscribers to mix their own sets

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

dialup_sounds wrote: post #80
ethagknight wrote: post #72

Im a little confused, if I wanted to create a mix with my favorite parts of songs, is this something I can do relatively easily from Apple Music? Or do I need to get additional hardware or buy some extra software? I love a lot of jam bands, but dont always want to listen to the uhhh lengthy preambles and wandering postludes, just want the gravy. Would love to mix together some highlights along with other non jam song…

This is different. This allows DJ software to utilize Apple Music as a library. You would still need DJ software to actually make a mix. However, for your use case, if you're already using Apple Music, you can set start and end points on individual tracks (Get Info on the track, Options). This is nondestructive, but not specific to the playlist so you'd have to turn it off again to hear the full track, and your expor…

Am I reading right, a new product has only 'burn to CD' as a way to listen offline? Haven't had a CD player in the house for a decade or more. Why not just cut a wax cylinder?

Re: DJ With Apple Music launches to enable subscribers to mix their own sets

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

crtasm wrote: post #87
6stringmerc wrote: post #84

Are these tracks high enough quality not to sound like shit on a club system? Legit question - it’s why I purchase 320 kbps mp3s via Beatport. Also, does this mean the tracks are licensed for public performance? So I can get paid $500 a gig and put on these tracks and not need to be at an ASCAP paying venue or liable for the rights? These things matter, especially in such a bullshit “you only bought a license” music…

My understanding is none of the streaming services integrated into DJ software cover licences for public performance. Just as you don't get that when buying a track from beatport etc.

It specifically says on the Apple page [1]

"sculpt your sets directly from Apple Music before you perform ... for DJs at any level ..."

That can only realistically mean that you're paying for something to perform with. Otherwise it would be an incitement to copyright infringement...

Does Beatport say "Tracks for you to perform with as a DJ"? If not, I can't really see how the comparison works.

Apple Music even existing relied on trademark infringement so I guess expecting them to care about IPR is too much!?

https://music.apple.com/us/curator/dj-with-apple-music/17982...

Re: DJ With Apple Music launches to enable subscribers to mix their own sets

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Post by notpushkin »

nsteel wrote: post #108
notpushkin wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Mixxx is for live mixing only. Still a good piece of software though!

Not sure about that. There is a feature request for supporting streaming services and the hurdle is legal more than anything. https://bugs.launchpad.net/mixxx/+bug/938180

That’s a bit orthogonal, though – you can use streaming services when playing live, too.

Re: DJ With Apple Music launches to enable subscribers to mix their own sets

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Post by nsteel »

notpushkin wrote: post #113
nsteel wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure about that. There is a feature request for supporting streaming services and the hurdle is legal more than anything. https://bugs.launchpad.net/mixxx/+bug/938180

That’s a bit orthogonal, though – you can use streaming services when playing live, too.

Yes, sorry, that 2nd part of the comment belonged in another thread here.

Re: DJ With Apple Music launches to enable subscribers to mix their own sets

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Post by input_sh »

genewitch wrote: post #107
sollewitt wrote: post #16

Djay’s killer feature is algorithmic stem extraction. The streaming audio services that have integration (Tidal, now Apple Music) don’t allow this processing. It’s an arbitrary technical limitation that I suspect is rooted in a licensing agreement from the rights holders. tl;dr this is great for playing with sequencing, but a lot of modern djays will want to be able to do stem separation even when exploring, and live…

Does it stem in real time? That is can you use it to do karaoke on an arbitrary song as it streams ?

When you import a track to your collection, it does the processing. So, not completely in real time, but it only takes like a minute of background processing before it's ready. Virtually all DJ software has this as a feature nowadays, but of course, results vary.

It's like the next "big thing", very few DJ controllers on the market right now have dedicated buttons for it, but that's about to change.

Re: DJ With Apple Music launches to enable subscribers to mix their own sets

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Post by input_sh »

Jgrubb wrote: post #62
input_sh wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no skill involved in pitching the two nearly-identical-in-BPM tracks and nudging them into rhythm. Put any sync button DJ in front of a proper CDJ setup, give them a couple of hours to practice and they will be able to pull off a set. Most importantly: it is the least important part of the job. Nobody in the crowd gives a shit about whether or not you're using the sync button, it makes no difference to them.…

Amazing - every word of what you just said is wrong.

I would love to see some actual counter-arguments!

Re: DJ With Apple Music launches to enable subscribers to mix their own sets

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Post by input_sh »

kakoni wrote: post #70
input_sh wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not necessarily, Rekordbox mobile never supported all of the streaming services supported on Rekordbox desktop.

Looking at my latest rekordbox iOS it does apple,soundcloud,beatport and tidal. I guess only one missing (that desktop has) is beatsource?

Yup, on iOS it's missing Beatsource, on Android it's missing both Beatport and Beatsource. Whether Android version will support Apple Music remains to be seen.

Re: DJ With Apple Music launches to enable subscribers to mix their own sets

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Post by dzhiurgis »

Mashimo wrote: post #48
dzhiurgis wrote: post #26

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Yep, almost by definition most DJs play unreleased stuff that wouldn’t be on streaming services for years.

> most DJs play unreleased No, that is definitely not true. While you can find DJs that play obscure or ~vinyl only~ releases, there are also a ton of DJs who play popular music.

Most of that will be remixes too. I guess I’m not talking about wedding DJs but raves and festivals.

Re: DJ With Apple Music launches to enable subscribers to mix their own sets

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Post by dzhiurgis »

shlant wrote: post #74
dzhiurgis wrote: post #26

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Yep, almost by definition most DJs play unreleased stuff that wouldn’t be on streaming services for years.

the vast majority of DJs are not producers so no

They work closely with producers tho and there’s a lot of trade inbetween.

Re: DJ With Apple Music launches to enable subscribers to mix their own sets

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Post by Shorel »

999900000999 wrote: post #75
ahilss wrote: post #30

I’m the developer of Transitions DJ ( https://dj.app/ ). If anyone can connect me with the team at Apple Music, I would be interested in doing an integration.

This is the best thing I've seen on this website all week, what midi controllers do you suggest. I'm a very amateur musician and this feels perfect for making fun chopped up remixes of some of my music.

I tested it with my Hercules Inpulse 500 and it works beautifully.
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